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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/40120300

Defense secretary’s memo says stripping the name of the Navy veteran is part of an effort to reestablish ‘warrior culture’

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I wonder if the Americans are tired of winning yet.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember when dipshit conservative voters thought this admin was going to increase the quality of their lives by addressing the cost of living and corruption and waste in our government?

Instead, they elected people like themselves; children trapped in adult bodies. So this is what they get. Something that in no way makes their lives easier.

Hegseth is a waste of oxygen, but the bottom line is the majority of voting Americans are too, and that's why he's where he is. Our culture is rotten. Things aren't going to get better any time soon. America is too stupid for that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, but they are PWNING TEH LIBZ!

Why can't you see how that makes everything better?

Seriously, I was talking to one of the cons I know this weekend and he's balls-deep in the MAGA Cinematic Universe. This is someone that thinks we were living under tyranny under Obama and under Biden, and now that we have "freedom", he looks forward to the economy being so much more beautiful (he also idiotically thinks that the economy under Biden - and which was the envy of the world was just terrible - though to be fair, I keep hearing centrists, and quite a few so-called "leftists" say the exact same dopey thing in spite of all the evidence of my eyes).

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Harvey Milk took a bullet for his cause. Can Pete Hegseth say the same?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It's not too late!!!

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Only after six million gallons of whiskey.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Naming military equipment after citizens who have contributed to the good of democracy reminds us that the military is controlled by the citizens, and reminds us of the values we ostensibly fight for. That’s a good thing.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Harvey Milk isn't just a citizen though, he's a military veteran.

The US regularly names vessels after politicians who are also military vets. Presidents often get something big, like an aircraft carrier named after them, lower level public servants tend to get smaller ships.

All that is to say, this isn't just some special case, this is just how we do things. This wasn't DEI, it was the normal state of affairs. So with that in mind, to go out of your way to change this name is so disrespectful... I have trouble describing it.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I didn’t know that thanks for clarifying

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The current administration is motivated by greed and spite. It has no interest in doing good things for the country. It considers its business to be mainly hurting people, when it's not stealing wealth.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Oh thank goodness these asshats are doing some performative bullshit to distract from their destruction of so many other things. I am still paying $4 a gallon for gas, but at least I can say that donvict is "owning the libs" or whatever the fuck.

[–] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 88 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Hey, remember when he used insecure Signal to communicate highly classified information? Whatever happened with that?

No, really, why did that story fade?

[–] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 51 points 2 days ago

Because they're nazis and waving signs and tacos at them doesn't make them stop ?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To clarify: Signal is secure as far as we know, but these fools used a Signal knockoff that is basically a very insecure wrapper around Signal that totally undermines it.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

I was actually surprised they were using it, because it keeps a record of communication (which the government officials are required to keep).

So it was a weird mix of irresponsible and responsible behavior.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

OPSEC is clean.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, really, why did that story fade?

Because Americans have brains roughly the size of hamsters so they can't fit much else beyond Dancing With The Stars and Real Wives of Whatever in there at any given time.

Also, we wake up to some new embarrassment from this administration every. single. day. So our timeline is pretty extreme right now.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That’s right, jimmy! People easily forget due to Firehose tactics as well as Bread and Circuses.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Clearly the most important thing a war minister could be doing

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 69 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nothing says "warrior culture" than being terrified of natural phenomenon.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Let me guess... to be replaced with Confederate soldier names?

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Lots of possibilities there!

Jim Beam
Jack Daniels
Henry Weinhard

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

Why not Harvey Weinstein or Jeffrey Epstein?

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Got a feeling his favorite Whiskey brand is Phillips.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

U.S.S. Hennessy

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago

USS Gatorade

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It may as well be the SS Adolf at this point

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[–] klu9@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

or

  • USS Dan White
  • USS Jim Jones
  • USS Ashli Babbit
[–] RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Aw, the ship looks really bummed about it, too

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Lol - that is one melancholy-looking ship face!

Sad ship

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

Alcoholic Pete falls down the stairs.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 21 points 2 days ago

The memo seen by Military.com stated that the name change was done for there to be "alignment with president and SECDEF objectives and SECNAV priorities of reestablishing the warrior culture," in a seeming reference to President Donald Trump, Hegseth, and Phelan.

Milk became the first openly gay man elected to public office in California when he became a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors in 1978 after winning an election the previous year.

I'm not really convinced that homosexuality and "warrior culture" are at odds with one another.

Hercules

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Male_lovers_of_Heracles

Pages in category "Male lovers of Heracles"

  • Abderus
  • Adonis
  • Admetus of Pherae
  • Argus
  • Corythus
  • Eurystheus
  • Hylas
  • Iolaus
  • Iphitus
  • Nireus
  • Philoctetes
  • Polystratus
  • Sostratus of Dyme

Sacred Band of Thebes

The Sacred Band of Thebes (Ancient Greek: Ἱερός Λόχος, Hierós Lóchos) was an elite heavy infantry of select soldiers, allegedly consisting of 150 pairs of male couples which formed the elite force of the Theban army in the 4th century BC, ending Spartan domination.

According to Plutarch, the 300 hand-picked men were chosen by Gorgidas purely for ability and merit, regardless of social class.[18] It was composed of 150 male couples,[15] each pair consisting of an older erastês (ἐραστής, "lover") and a younger erômenos (ἐρώμενος, "beloved").[19] Athenaeus of Naucratis also records the Sacred Band as being composed of "lovers and their favorites, thus indicating the dignity of the god Eros in that they embrace a glorious death in preference to a dishonorable and reprehensible life",[9] while Polyaenus describes the Sacred Band as being composed of men "devoted to each other by mutual obligations of love".

Samurai

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan#Samurai_shud%C5%8D

Samurai shudō

In contrast to the norms in religious circles, in the warrior (samurai) class it was customary for a boy in the wakashū age category to undergo training in the martial arts by apprenticing to a more experienced adult man. According to Furukawa, the relationship was based on the model of a typically older nenja, paired with a typically younger chigo.[1] The man was permitted, if the boy agreed, to take the boy as his lover until he came of age; this relationship, often formalized in a "brotherhood contract",[12] was expected to be exclusive, with both partners swearing to take no other (male) lovers.

This practice, along with clerical pederasty, developed into the codified system of age-structured homosexuality known as shudō, abbreviated from wakashūdō, the "way (Tao) of wakashū".[14] The older partner, in the role of nenja, would teach the chigo martial skills, warrior etiquette, and the samurai code of honor, while his desire to be a good role model for his chigo would lead him to behave more honorably himself; thus a shudō relationship was considered to have a "mutually ennobling effect".

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 28 points 2 days ago

Ah yes, famous coward Harvey Milk /s

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 18 points 2 days ago

Fucking nazi asshole.

[–] match@pawb.social 6 points 2 days ago

Pete Hegseth Orders Navy to Strip

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pete uses a lot of product. Just sayin.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pete is more product than warrior on any given day

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Weird way to celebrate

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