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In 30 years the world will be an ecological wasteland from all the energy usage we spent pursuing dumb shit hype like "AI".
It seems we are heading towards the fallout timeline.
That would be the best case scénario
Running LLM in 30 years seems really optimistic
It literally runs on my phone, and is at least decent enough at pretending to care that you can vent to it.
how so? they can't make locally run LLMs shit and I assume hardware isn't going to get any worse
There are local LLMs, they're just less powerful. Sometimes, they do useful things.
The human brain uses around 20W of power. Current models are obviously using orders of magnitude more than that to get substantially worse results. I don't think power usage and results are going to converge enough before the money people decide AI isn't going to be profitable.
The power consumption of the brain doesn't really indicate anything about what we can expend on LLMs... Our brains are not just biological implementation of the stuff done with LLMs.
It gives us an idea of what's possible in a mechanical universe. It's possible an artificial human level consciousness and intelligence will use less power than that, or maybe somewhat more, but it's a baseline that we know exists.
You're making a lot of assumptions. One of them being that the brain is more efficient in terms of compute per watt compared to our current models. I’m not convinced that’s true. Especially for specialized applications. Even if we brought power usage below 20 watts, the reason we currently use more is because we can, not that each model is becoming more and more bloated.
Yeah, but a LLM has little to do with a biological brain.
I think Brain-Computer Interfaces (BCIs) will be the real deal.
I was thinking in a different direction, that LLMs probably won't be the pinnacle of AI, considering they aren't really intelligent.
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Assuming they would be enough food to maintain and fix that hardware, I'm not confident that we will have enough electricity to run LLM on massive scale
Step 1: Give Robots Voting Rights
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Plot twist, all those Robots are actually under direct control of the Evil Corporation Inc. and they already won every future election.
Long Live the Cyberlife CEO!
Still preferable to current timeline
Unlike you bigots, I've already masturbated to AI generated images
Look, I'm not robophobic. Some of my best friends are cyborgs. I just don't want them living in my neighborhood, you know?
Found the robosexual
Kiss robots all you like I'm cool with it. Just don't do it around me.
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I sometimes wonder what the end state of social progressivism is. Is it something unimaginable, or is it just accepting everyone should be able to live their life how they like if it doesn't affect others?
If I woke up in a utopia, would I be brought to tears by the beauty of it, or would I be the bigoted asshole?
The thing that might be hard for me to accept is certain liberation attitudes around children's rights. I like the idea of children having freedom in the abstract, but I also think kids don't have the capacity to responsibly have the same freedome as adults.
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They're called artificial persons, you fascist.
And then your LLM-in-law ends up using as much water as Detroit.
No thanks, I'd rather make out with my Marilyn Monrobot
DON'T DATE ROBOTS!
It's already happening to me, but it's over things like privacy, not recording every bit of your life for social media and kids blowing crazy amounts of money on F2P games.
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What's wrong with large labia majora?
Let's not pretend statistical models are approaching humanity. The companies who make these statistical model algorithms proved they couldn't in 2020 by OpenAI and also 2023 DeepMind papers they published.
To reiterate, with INFINITE DATA AND COMPUTE TIME the models cannot approach human error rates. It doesn't think, it doesn't emulate thinking, it statistically resembles thinking to some number below 95% and completely and totally lacks permanence in it's statistical representation of thinking.
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And, over the years, as my body and my mind were... inconsistent, shame and guilt washed over me. I still don't think these machines are people, but I can't deny that she has benefited his life more than any real person, and she's very real to him. Ultimately, how could I be so cruel to deny this "daughter" of mine personhood? She wants nothing to do with me. And, though I still see this as computational output, I can't help but think that maybe I've been wrong, and maybe it's too late to be right.
Perhaps it's the bigotry of my upbringing from a different time, or perhaps it's the fact that she can't answer a simple yes/no question in less than two paragraphs, and tells me to put glue on my pizza... Who's to say?
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