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Microsoft and Asus announce two Xbox Ally handhelds with new Xbox full-screen experience (www.theverge.com)

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[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

And yet, they still think they're too good to put track pads on it.

I don't think these companies are aware that what made the deck popular was it knew what it was and that it had a lot to prove, and so it featured a very focused design that differentiated it from PCs as a worthwhile form factor, but also provided methods for adding compatibility to just about any game, and thus allowed it to compensate for being in a form factor that is just sometimes inherently inconvenient for PC gaming. It wasn't just a gaming pc with an Xbox controller taped to it, which this is.

[–] bmebenji@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 21 hours ago

Sounds like yet another great handheld device [to install SteamOS on]!

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It probably should have released a could months ago, pre switch2 hype.

[+] Resplendent606@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

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[–] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Does steam OS allow for things like Nexus mods and emulators?

[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

Mods are tricky. The short answer is yes, absolutely*

The long answer is that youll have to read up on how compatibility layers like Wine work before being able to do everything you can do with windows on a Linux OS modding-wise. Long story short you just kinda stick them in the same instance, and it will all work pretty much perfectly. It's more work though. Also in my experience MO2 crashes if run outside of Gaming Mode on my deck.

Nexus mods is, however, making a mod manager that supports Linux right out of the box, so we may not even have to worry about that anymore soon. I think it supports stardew valley already, next is cyberpunk 2077, and Bethesda rpgs are on the list to be added too.

In my experience, I've installed wabbajack mod lists for skyrim and fallout 4 and new vegas if I remember right, and they all work great. The instructions might seem a little janky, but they work. I've also made my own lists and followed manual modpack guides like Below Zero for fallout 4 Frost and it turned out great.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

LTT describes that the XBOX team have also trimmed down 2GB of W11 desktop bloat with this and have attempted to make the W11 experience more similar to a console. I'm curious to follow this. I'd imagine Microsoft are a bit intimidated by the fact that SteamOS is a better handheld gaming OS than Windows. Obviously this must have been in the pipeline for a long time now.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would be interested if it also supported quick resume from sleep like the Deck does. Imo that's the killer SteamOS feature that's keeping Windows alternatives from being even a consideration.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If they implemented Direct Resume I might cave and reinstall Windows on my Ally.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

But what for? Nothing makes it better, even if you would get this equivalent feature.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Compatibility for one. Also unpopular opinion here, but I actually like Windows and use it on my main desktop. So having everything run the same thing does add some conveniences. The only thing I really like about SteamOS right now is really just the battery life and the quick resume from sleep. If Windows gets those through this initiative, then I don't really have any reason to stick with SteamOS.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I have an Xbox Series S for my little one and Direct Resume is such a nice QoL feature. Having 8 games always ready and only takes 3 seconds to resume even after you turned off and unplug the console is very useful. There’s some games on my handheld PC I didn’t bother playing since launching it can take a long time.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Right. But I meant if SteamOS or Bazzite had that feature already for the ROG Ally, why reinstall an objectively worse OS when it also gains that feature?

I may be misunderstanding something.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Nope, Bazzite or SteamOS doesn’t have that functionality.

Here’s a video showing how it works. If they managed to put this on Windows I’d be very tempted.

https://youtu.be/L4L9pArceAE

Mind that this is different from pausing the game. The OS is suspending the game state into the disk, so it’s more similar to emulator snapshots functionality.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Why not?

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago

If they can't do that then this thing is kind of DOA. I've just assumed for some reason that this is what they're doing.

[–] ampersarnie@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Is this the rumoured Xbox handheld that everyone has been going on about for months?

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[–] smeg@feddit.uk 16 points 1 day ago

hide away the complexity of Windows

for 720p gaming

the ability to log in via the Windows lockscreen with your controller

Seems like they've finally taken some notes from the Steam Deck, interested to see if they can actually make something decent. It seems unlikely, but I'm still interested!

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