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"Stop being a little bitch, Mr President." (discuss.online)

submitted 2 days ago by bytesonbike@discuss.online to c/peoplebluesky@lemmy.world

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[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

We see what you're doing Gavin. Sure, it sounds cool, but you know damn well you won't be arrested. Even if you were, you'd be released the next day with less than a slap on the wrist. Nobody would be impressed. This isn't a path to the White House bud, we actually have to physically remove these people from office if any of this is going to get better. You are not navalny, and you damn sure aren't the next president. Just forget about that, it isn't a possibility even with the DNC and it's failures.

[–] jedibob5@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Look, I'm not going to say that Gavin isn't generally a dipshit (he is) or that what he's doing now means that we should unequivocally support him (we shouldn't), but like... at least he's resisting. At least he's not rolling over and conceding to Trump's every demand like much of the Dem establishment. I think our anger is better focused elsewhere right now than at a prominent politician who is very publicly and very directly resisting Trump's abuses of power. I'd much rather Newsom be doing this when he could be issuing statements that the protesters should stand down and disperse.

As far as the efficacy of it, no, he probably won't be arrested, but I don't think that really matters. The point is to loudly call attention to the callous evil of what Trump is doing, take the moral high ground on the situation, and call his bluff. Daring Trump to arrest him makes headlines, calling attention to what's happening, and potentially influencing public support. If Trump doesn't arrest him, he looks weak and shows that he has no real justification, and in the event he does arrest Newsom, that's gonna open up a huge can of worms he's almost certainly not ready for.

Defeating fascism is going to require a broad coalition, which means working with a lot of people we don't personally like, at least in the times where our interests align.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago

Defeating fascism is going to require a broad coalition

Damn right. You think the oligarchs in the Republican party have a lot in common with the average Trump supporting mouth breathers? No, they use them for their vote and don't argue with them when they start spewing garbage about vaccine conspiracies, gun rights whenever a school gets shot up, and immigration.

We need other people we don't normally like but can at least agree to have a common enemy with. If that means I have to side with a tankie on this I'll do it. If I have to get behind Newsom I'll still have to hold my nose but I'll do it too. I still don't trust those who originally voted for Trump though, they already proved they were pieces of shit who wanted to hurt the weak to begin with.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

That's fair.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Of course he knows it won't happen. He isn't trying to show how brave he is, he's pointing out what a child Trump is.

Yeah, everything he does is full of "remember this when I run for president" energy, but I don't think there's much to dunk on here.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean I'll give him credit for doing the thing and saying things that most Dems in government aren't saying at the moment. So there is that, and the VERY slight risk of retribution. But in reality it's basically nothing. Less than nothing if you count all the steps right he's taken recently.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

you know damn well you won't be arrested

That's exactly the point. He's calling Trump's bluff and making him look weak.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Newsom wants the status quo and everyone to wait for pointless lawsuits he knows wont actually work.

Like, even ignoring precedents, if trump loses he'll take it to the SC, it'll just stall and waste time all the while ICE keeps going and Cali cops keeps supporting them.

Newsom doesn't have the grit or desire to fight fascism

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Just get it over with

-Democrats response to anything