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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

With what passes for news these days at most outlets I can't say I feel too bad for them that someone else beat them at their own game of feeding the masses surface level doom scrolling slop for engagement and ad impressions.

Hell, a large chunk of the junk being put out by these same outlets is trash written by the AI solutions they are paying for. Probably solutions from the likes of Google that is giving it to them at both ends.

Once the snake finishes eating its own tail maybe the good reporters will still have somewhere that pays them for the good work they do.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, they did it to themselves buying into the rage bait bullshit they've been doing for years.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 4 points 20 hours ago

Glad this is happening. These are the same news outlets that provide Google with your information and pay Google for ads.

They can all bust for all I care.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One of the problems that the major news outlets have is that they repeat each other. It's not merely an issue of AI compiling news stories, but that on top of the fact that all of these newspapers are doing hardly any research. For example, if you live in a town that's not too large, there might only be one local paper, and they might send out reporters to local events. Obviously you would then go to that newspaper if you wanted to learn about local events, because they are adding explicit value.

But if you're trying to read about national politics, a lot of the information is going to be the same in a lot of the newspapers. Which means nobody cares about the newspaper itself. And this is a creation of the newspaper's own decision making over the past few decades.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd say their decision making was mostly forced by their drop in ad revenue and subscriptions forced by the internet.

Though I do wish that someone would make a Spotify for news so that I could pay once and get access to all of them and at least give them 10 cents per article or something, because I will never pay the subscription cost any are asking.

As much as I'd like to support them, the price to utility ratio is way the fuck off at the prices they ask now.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

It's also the speed of news now. When you had a edition a day in print there was time to do research.

Now with instant publishing on the web it's more important to get the basic story out fast. With the hope it's the one that sites like reddit pickup.

[–] insomniac20k@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That’s kinda what Apple News+ is but stuck in their walled garden.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm okay except for the walled garden part. I get referred to articles in many ways, none of them in Apple News. If I can ever log into the actual publications sites with my Apple ID and get the article, then I'm on.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

it’s a little annoying but i find searching for the article title generally produces the right result in the news app

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's not an experience I'm willing to pay for in its current form. But I could definitely see a path for it to become one, thanks for putting it on my radar.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 11 hours ago

yeah for sure… i get it with apple one because i actively use music, drive, and tv+… certainly wouldn’t subscribe to it on its own, because you’re absolutely right: it’s too much of a hassle

[–] boughtmysoul@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Watch his recent interview with Nilay Patel from The Verge. Watching him dance around questions about this was painful.

This man only cares about increasing Alphabet stock prices to ensure as large a golden parachute as possible on the way out.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

You described all executives everywhere.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

The sad part is this is actually his job description and Alphabet could get sued by shareholders if he didn‘t do exactly that. The stock market needs to be criminalized, not glorified as the one truth like it‘s treated right now.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This man only cares about increasing Alphabet stock prices to ensure as large a golden parachute as possible on the way out.

This Is literally his legal obligation, welcome to capitalism

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

there are many ways to fulfil this “obligation”… i’d argue that he’s increasing alphabet stock price in the short term but long term what the fuck is going to happen when the sources all go out of business?

… oh right they’re going to become a news monopoly… cool cool cool

regardless, i think there’s an argument to be made with all this “we are evil because it’s our legal duty to shareholders” that evil is a bad long-term choice. i think boeing is the prime example: if they weren’t “too big to fail” they’d be fucked because of their short term thinking

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

No, making money is not a legal obligation. CEO at my last job told the board, two years in a row, that intended to lose money so we could invest in our people and tech. They cheered him.

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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wouldn't this kill their ad revenue? Which is like...most of their revenue?

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ad supported articles is a dead industry, Google realizes this better than anyone. People don't go to the source anymore to answer curiosities, why would you read a whole article to answer a simple question when AI gives you the answer directly?

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

I meant why would people advertise on Google if it won't convert to clicks anymore?

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

why would you read a whole article to answer a simple question when AI gives you the answer directly?

context?, nuance?, verifying the AI slop?

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 111 points 1 day ago (12 children)

People really trust it? Like it’s been so wrong on things for me, I automatically skip to search results past it. Why bother anymore

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People on Twitter regularly go “@grok is this true” to everything and trust the AI to be correct.

The same AI that said the fresh photo of National Guard members sleeping on the floor was from 2021…

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

people still on twitter are complete, brain washed idiots... so this behaviour tracks

[–] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

google search has been trash even before llms, i believe its one of the reasons chatgpt got so much traction. first 2 pages are just generic slop with paywalled or ad-infested content.

i switched to kagi 2 years ago and its has relevant results on page 1 that i won’t get in google even after 10s of pages. plus i don’t bombed with ads for that term for weeks.

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

they purposefully fucked up the search so people would have to click more pages to find their answer, giving google a chance to display more ads.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

I use extensions to block AI results... having to skip past them is annoying

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[–] ckmnstr@lemmy.world 97 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Which is such a shortsighted move because as soon as all the news portals close shop Google's scraper will have nothing relevant to summarize and is gonna be shit.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nothing is stopping the AI summaries from using social media as the primary source

[–] ckmnstr@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Can't wait for Google to AI-summarize AI-generated social media posts for artificial Google users created to hike ad prices. It's gonna be wild

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (6 children)

So social media are news outlets now. Good. Glad we cleared that up.

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

That’s when Google will buy what ever is left of Condé Nast or Buzzfeed at bottom dollar and start using more AI to shit out “news”.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

they will be using that opportunity to make up the truth they want.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago

No! Pushing AI generated garbage is our job!

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Lol maybe they shouldn't have covered up the genocide in Gaza

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago

“Every day, we send billions of clicks to websites, and connecting people to the web continues to be a priority,” a Google spokesperson said in a statement. “New experiences like AI Overviews and AI Mode enhance Search and expand the types of questions people can ask, which creates new opportunities for content to be discovered.”

They followed up with: “You can totally trust me, and everything I just said. I am absolutely definitely not lying.”

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