Trump is baiting it to get violent. That’s why he pardoned the Jan 6rs. They are his goons.
Don’t feed the troll king.
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Die ad democratic politicians, sherrifs telling protesters "we are gonna shoot all of you" or something like that. Violence is already there, it's just that one side uses it and the other doesn't.
You guys really don't get it.
There is no scenario where they won't blame this on everyone but themselves. It does not matter. Their end goal is violence. Full stop.
Fascists only relent when they are met with direct physical force. They will not move until they are afraid for their lives.
They are killing us anyway.
So much energy expended on discussions of violence. Do not worry about if you should or should not do violence. Violence is merely a question of who has the power to allow or forbid it. And if you protest long enough to make political progress, violence will find you, doesn't matter one bit how you personally feel about it.
Liberals be like "But what about the law??"
Our species has spun its collective wheels for millenia because people broadly think someone or something is in charge. Thinking people believe there's some kind of objective good, a rule-of-law. Non-thinking people think there's a ruling power, a human system of hierarchy that all beings must submit to. The purely reactionary, emotionally-leashed bottom of the barrel believe in supernatural forces like God or Lizard People pulling strings from the shadows.
I sometimes wonder how much progress we could make as a species if we all just suddenly woke up with the deep and unshakable knowledge that nobody is coming.
Would we take care of things better? Would we collectively work to build that ruling power or would human minds break at the very notion of real agency and just rip each others' throats out?
we shouldn't be waiting for violence to find us. it needs to find them.
question
I've been thinking today.
it's illegal to block the road, you can get in trouble for a sit in, or by parking on the road.
but how about just driving on a road and respecting the speed limit?
how many drivers do you need to all agree to drive on a specific road, in circles to congest it and create a nightmarish traffic jam.
it's better to be strategic and do so during rush hours. 50 protesters could easily halt the traffic of some main arteries. and really hurt the economy.
Stop giving a shit about what is illegal. It was made illegal because it was effective. The establishment doesn't want you to be effective.
My city's municipal code forbids dangerous items...like helmets, armor, gas masks, impact masks, social distancing masks, disguise masks, shields, umbrellas, signs that are durable enough to protect against inclement conditions, and more. To say the least, I decided to just abandon the notion of law concerning such things.
These rules are plainly designed to favor bullies. I can understand (reciprocal) restrictions on firearms, but you can't tell me that eye protection or ballistic armor isn't a good thing for peaceful protest. A reporter got shot by a fucker in the back, for having the temerity of doing her job!
If the punishment for breaking a rule is a fine, then it's not a rule meant to help people, it's meant to give the wealthy power to do what they want.
if I'm detained I'm not getting arrainged and released, im getting deported and never seeing my daughters again
or maybe end up in an Salvadorian prison
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Non Violence only protects the state and state approved protest means nothing. The most violent people are police at protests. Dr. King's character is always stripped down to the peaceful Black leader, and look how that went for him. He was still assassinated.
To be fair, so was Malcolm X
...after he turned away from violence
Perhaps, but I'd guess the risk of assassination rises with influence as opposed to their own views on violence
I agree that we have reached a point where things will only continue to get much, much worse without widespread and overwhelming violence against the authoritarians. Both those in power and those following them.
The problem is that authoritarians are primarily motivated by the irrational fear of violence. This fear justifies their violence, but nobody else’s. And they currently control the government, military, etc and therefore overwhelmingly more violent force than any resistance is likely to muster. On the other hand, authoritarian followers are predisposed to accept what they are told by the leaders of their in-groups, so when peaceful protests are called “violent riots” they will believe it unquestioningly and nothing whatsoever can or will change their minds. Hence, peaceful protest is no defense against the accusation of violence and subsequent right-wing violence. This is why abortion is such an easy topic for social dominators to leverage when inciting their authoritarian followers: it’s “evidence” that their opponents are inherently violent, against babies.
And again, reason and rationality have no part in this. The followers want to believe their out-group is violent and evil, they fear violence, so they will believe it because it reinforces their existing beliefs (a fear of violence, etc).
BTW, Democratic politicians in Missouri were assassinated this morning, and it’s not currently being widely covered by the news. So that take that how you like.
BTW, Democratic politicians in Missouri were assassinated this morning
By "someone dressed up like a cop" as the media put it. Which I guess is newspeak for just "a cop".
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