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[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

I recommend Kagi. It is a search engine with absolutely no tracking or ads, AI slop filter, an in-house index and a cute doggo. It's a paid search engine (which means you pay with money not with data), but you can give it a try with 300 free searches with no strings attached.

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're soon going to end up back in the early/mid 90s where the only way to find something is via a internet yellowpages.. only this time, not because search engines dont exist yet, but because they are completely worthless garbage.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't forget to put your website on a webring! https://xn--sr8hvo.ws/

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Man I miss the old internet..

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Someone posted this the other day: https://goodinternetmagazine.com/building-a-slow-web/

I really liked the idea so I quickly made my personal site and put it on the indie webring. It's a tiny community but it's there.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

its neat, but its not the same. old internet was more than a thing. it was an era.

[–] TheodorAlforno@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Unpopular opinion: The missing business model for websites is killing the web. If there was a platform that would distribute a monthly fee to the websites we visit, the web would be much better.

50% could be allocated through traffic, 50% by choice. I could pay 20€ a month for example. Some would go to lemmy, some to my local newspaper, some to my favorite YouTube channels, authors or bloggers.

If enough people did this, investigative journalism would be funded, product testers wouldn't be reliant on sponsoring and hobbyists could gain serious funding without selling out.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like you want to nationalise the internet and all its services. :P

If only we could pay for a worthwhile internet via taxes.

[–] TheodorAlforno@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago

All it would take would be a platform that handles the payment and supplies a tracking pixel. Websites could join and become part of it. At the moment, every single publisher has their own payment solution. If I want to read one local article from Houston today and one from Tokyo tomorrow, I won't join two payment plans. I want them to be paid automatically, like when I play a song on Spotify or watch a video on YouTube. Just a decent amount of money instead of paying mostly middlemen.

[–] DampSquid@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

This sounds exactly like what Brave is/was supposed to be/could have been.

[–] raldone01@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would love a if there was a standard websites would use to receive donations. An integrated browser addon that track what you visit and gives you a review before distributing funds after each month would be great. It should accumulate money to avoid transaction fees for tiny amounts.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Google disagrees. In fact, the company tells the BBC that AI Overviews have been good for the web, and AI Mode will be no different. Google insists these features send users to "a greater diversity of websites" and the traffic is "higher quality" because people spend more time on the links they click.

However, the company hasn't provided data to back up these claims.

This is how we know they are lying.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Google disagrees. In fact, the company tells the BBC “Trust us, bro.”

Non-AI summary.

[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

More time per click is such a useless metric for the end user.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 16 hours ago

I could spend a lot of time sifting through ads, nag screens and bullshit to find the actual detail I want on a webpage.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] nebulaone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn, thats fuckin' metal, bro. Also, the text to gif gave me a flashback of ~15 years ago.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

feels like its 1998 and I'm listening to MTV while browsing the web on AOL with that gif, lol

[–] winni@lemmy.world 96 points 1 day ago (2 children)

the web is already destroyed with all the spam, commercial crap, tracking and spying

[–] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But the people making money off of all of that are mad now, hence this article.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah. smallest violin plays in the distance

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[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

What is dead may never die.

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 day ago

“About to”?

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

I haven't used Google Search in quite a while. It's frankly unusable for finding any useful information for someone like me.

[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not sure about the web but Google can for sure Yahoo themselves out of existence.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I miss Yahoo games.

Google only has one game, and it's not even multiplayer. :/

[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Yahoo games and clubs, groups and search, chat and messenger that had filesharing and video and allowed cross fertilisation between everything. It was becoming the internet, it was set to buy Google and then it just stopped and closed it all down.

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[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Google search engine has been shit for a decade or more. Wasn't there some document that it was made so by purpose, because there was no incentive to improve it becuse there was no real competition or the competition was just a front-end to google.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

I'm not a huge fan of Ed Zitron generally, he leans towards histrionic too much for my tastes, but he makes a compelling case here.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

histrionic

True... yet nearly everybody else, maybe beside few like 404 media, seems to be either boot licking or access "journalism" so I get the "spicy" take.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago

2018-2019 is when they officially turned the corner and decided to focus only on ad revenue. But the SEO abuse dove it into the ground by 2014ish. They were making money enough to expand by orders of magnitude into other areas, so they simply didn't want to tweak their search or strategy and kill their golden goose that funded things like Good Drive and their shit social network and loon, etc.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] Nay@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago

I called this one pretty early on. Let's see if it catches on or tanks the Goog.

[–] j4yt33@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

Cool, I'll just ditch Google at work as well, then

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