this post was submitted on 14 Jun 2025
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[–] tfm@europe.pub 9 points 12 hours ago

It wasn't just the replacement of jobs but also a drop in quality. Same as we see with AI.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I have no idea what order to read these posts in 😂

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 hours ago
[–] tabris@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

I think it's middle, bottom, then top.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 16 points 16 hours ago

And it’s doing all this by creating incredible amounts of CO2

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 25 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The Luddites weren't replaced either though? Factories still needed labour and much of what the Luddites were rallying against was the idea of being pressed into prison-like factory work. Much of how gen AI is being applied is to deskill workers so they can be exploited more in much the same way that machines like the power loom was used to deskill textile workers.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, but Luddites were working with the current info, not hindsight.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 12 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

I had always thought that the Luddites were anti-tech. I'm pretty sure that's what I was taught, decades ago. I found this article an interesting read on the topic. Hmm. Learn something most days.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 15 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, it was a very effective piece of propaganda to the point that Luddite is an insult now.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

I don't know if you "could" be "anti tech" back then, sure they destroyed the latest invention (those automated sewing machines) but as far as I have understood it was more a "we have this, we want to continue earning money with it" and less against progress.

That have changed of course, and today Luddite is synonym to being against new technology.

Which, in my opinion, isn't much better. It feels like those conservatives (not the usa ones) who just not want to adapt for any reason.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago

One of my fav blogs; https://theluddite.org/?tag=%2Fhome

I came across it during a similar exposé where Luddite!=anti technology as is commonly misunderstood.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Many years ago, I learned the word "Luddite" from a Terminator novel (also where I learned the name "Lenin"!). I can't decide whether I feel this post supports or detracts from their use of it.

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Good lord. Someone on an anti-AI forum indicating a vague understanding of the issue rather than just screeching incoherently?

Never thought I’d see it.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 6 points 9 hours ago

There is no reason to add the "anti-AI". Both sides of the argument have people who dont understand he topic and give terrible arguments.

I have seen more misunderstanding and ignoring of arguments on the pro-AI side, but more insulting the other side on the anti-AI side

[–] pemptago@lemmy.ml 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have something to add, or do you just want to take a cheap shot at people who are critical of a thing you like?

Most people here have a better understanding of ai than ai consumers i know. I find this community to be anti ai, as big tech hype/marketing brand, not anti ai as a branch of programming that includes ML and efficient, well-scoped models.

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world -4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There’s no room for rational discussion about AI on Lemmy. I learnt that one a while ago.

And I never said I liked it. That’s just an assumption you’ve made, based on nothing.

[–] pemptago@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago

based on nothing.

Your first comment took a detour to follow a valid post with confirmation bias-led ad hominem. I think it was a safe assumption based on your defensiveness, but keep those blinders up.

I often speak positively of specific ML and ai algorithms in this community, and I suspect the only downvotes I get are from ai fanboys who don't like hearing their favorite chatbot is a grift led by billionaires.

There’s no room for rational discussion about AI on Lemmy.

Seems to contradict your first comment, but sure, we're the irrational ones. We must be if we don't like ai /s

[–] ProfessorChodiMacCunt@sh.itjust.works 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

All hail King Ludd