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Sandboxed Google services on grapheneOS.

The mark of the beast.

(Also, when do we do a google antitrust again?)

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[–] FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago

Google play services is a monolith, that does a plethora of stuff on the phone, including features like quick share, location services, various Firebase APIs for instant notifications stuff, find my device and whatnot, so I think the size is pretty reasonable.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

For it is a human number

[–] 3aqn5k6ryk@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The power of christ compels you!

[–] leoboehm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] jerb@lemmy.croc.pw 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

MicroG requires signature spoofing, which Graphene deliberately does not support. It is more secure to run the real Play services in a sandbox that forces it to be a userland app than to run MicroG as a privileged system app with spoofing.

[–] leoboehm@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, I didn't know that, thanks.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Saying signature spoofing for all ROMs is less secure is misinformation, see CalyxOS's explanation: https://calyxos.org/docs/guide/microg/#is-microg-a-security-risk-in-calyxos-because-it-requires-signature-spoofing

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

You mean graphine? It's actually really easy

[–] leoboehm@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Literally just an apk on fdroid

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago