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Now? You think this happens at the drop of a hat? The entire system is built that way since decades.
I am pro-border in the fact that I think borders serve an important purpose and that laws surrounding immigration should exist and be enforced. That said, I think fixing immigration requires following the god damned laws and constitution, you don't enforce the law by breaking it. Fuck! Immigration courts and the entire immigration bureaucracy needs to be beefed up to handle this, and law enforcement of any kind needs to be working under the judicial system. Warrants are needed, you can't suspend habeas corpus, cops should never be masked and anonymous, and all law enforcement should be held to a higher standard than everyone else.
I think Trump is causing the legitimate action of enforcing our laws to look bad, and he is harming law and order for decades or longer. It should not be controversial to enforce laws, and if it is those laws need to be changed.
Despite how scofflaw this administration is, however, I do not think Trump will run for a third term. I don't think we as a country or even the Republican party as a whole is willing to that blatantly flout the constitution, and I think that at least 60% of both parties want what is best for the country. I don't think actual Nazis or true jackbooted fascists are more than 10% of the right (I can't believe I now think it's that high), but do believe 20-30% are exploited by grifters and opportunists. That might be naive, but it seems like.everyone is abandoning their faith in the fundamental good of others all across the country/world and I think that is sad.
The only reason he wouldn't run for a third term is if he died in office. Which he probably will either way since I'm not expecting those elections to be fair. (I know it sounds crazy but they've broken so much in just 5 months and we're on the verge of war and martial law.)
And he has incentive to stay in office too: the main reason he ran was to stay out of prison. It was either prison or president.
We could spend all day throwing out numbers, making predictions, arguing over facts, and burning each other out. We could parade around our favorite talking heads and share link after link that proves our exact point. These are the mechanisms of control. These are weeds that grow faster than any one person can cut them back.
We've given so much of our lives to serve some cause that none of us believe in. Now your very liberty is under threat, if only you had the eyes to see it.
We could spend all day throwing out numbers, making predictions, arguing over facts
I'm with you! I hate numbers, and facts!
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There are still people here who still make the excuse that Harris is just as bad as Trump, you guys are fucked as a country
You always like to claim people say that, but no one ever says that. They said they wouldnt vote for anyone in any party who supports genocide. You twist it around to be the words you prefer. I call that lying, but to each their own.
Potato potato.
I mean America is a fascist regime. And you know who support fascism? Fascists. So I guess most fascists are kinda OK with what's happening.
That's not denial, that's full endorsement.
I think a lot of people realize that trump is increasing the power of the govt, but the word fascist means different things to different people. Everyone thinks Hitler was a fascist, that Mussolini was one, but theres tons of people who oppose trump and think he fits into a different description that doesn't involve fascism. And ofc the people who do support him don't think he is and the ones that do are chill with it.
Everyone thinks Hitler was a fascist, that Mussolini was one, but theres tons of people who oppose trump and think he fits into a different description that doesn’t involve fascism.
And they would be wrong and they are failing to remain vigilant
For some it'll probably take til his fourth
We did just have the largest protest in the history of the nation... I think some of us are aware.
Not nearly enough apparently
.... I love the protesters... I love the protests... but the mere fact youre coming at me like that meant anything other than we marched in the street on a Saturday tells me youre not taking this seriously.
You have no idea who I am or what I do. Don't be so arrogant.
If I made you angry, good. Angry people are more likely to act.
Angry people are more likely to act. Yep , that' how you end up getting punched in the face. Or assassinated.
... who's being arrogant again?
The protests were baked into the Project 2025 plan from its inception. They've changed nothing.
Stop being a defeatist.
How long will people
The Gestapo could be hauling them away in cuffs and putting them away in camps and some will just go "why is this happening to me? there must be some mistake"
Anyone who is still on the fence is either only tuned into propaganda or is incapable of reasoning.
I think the line between a liberal democracy and fascism is much blurrier than most people think. I suspect the transition from one to the other, going in either direction, is entirely dependent on how much internal forces threaten the ruling capitalist class.
Right now, I think the US is on the decline but hasn’t yet experienced a crisis which really threatens the power of the capitalist class. Fascists seeking power therefore need to manufacture crises in order to accumulate power. That’s where I think the US is at right now.
However, I’m not sure how well it will really work. Democratic state leaders are effectively demonstrating that the existing law enforcement structures are perfectly capable of violently cracking down on dissent. So if you’re a wealthy capitalist, why would you push your bought and paid for judges and politicians to make Trump president for life? It seems like a needlessly risky move in my opinion.
That said, we can only say that the rich will operate rationally to protect their own interests on average. Individually, they can be wildly erratic like Elon Musk has proven to be. As such, the more wealth is concentrated into fewer and fewer hands, the less predictable the outcomes are.
True, fascism is the ultimate weapon that capitalists use in reaction to labor movements and class consciousness gaining strength. In fact, I’d argue that given modern advances in communication technology, which allow people to communicate and organize easier than ever, a fascist swing was almost inevitable.
It’s a shame that western world leaders don’t like dialectic materialism. We might have identified the problem before it seized power.
Wait, you think that will convince them?
They'll just turn around and go "well FDR had FOUR..."
That's just maga. I suspect Trump "winning" a third term and the events leading up to it will convince a substantial amount. Maybe not a majority, the only thing you can be sure of when dealing with americans is that they will always disappoint.
They'll just convince people it's not a third term, because they didn't need to have an election so it's just a continuation of his 2nd lawful term.
funny how you never hear from the "cold dead hands" guys when tyranny actually happens
Generally people in America don’t get organized until there’s a disaster. That’s one of the lessons of the Great Depression/New Deal. Not the most optimal way to maintain democracy. It’s not really “maintenance” if you wait for the thing to break and then fix it.
That’s a pretty classic Marxist understanding of how class conflict actually happens. In response to a crisis a state can either adapt or fall into chaos if it can’t. That’s essentially what happened during the new deal era and the civil war respectively. Although arguably the external threats of WWII allowed the US to adapt rather than fall apart.
Pull ICE masks, I would let them shoot me just to protect the person they're abducting, fckn nazi's, u wanna shoot an american citizen and make me a martyr? be my guess and see what'll happen
Resistance comes in more forms than just screaming and punching like a child. You need to educate people and organize them.
You need to educate people
Um, the fascists are cutting the dept of education...
Cutting? You're behind on the times, friend, they literally put out an executive order to dissolve it.