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During a Tuesday hearing at the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, the DOJ urged a three-judge panel to issue an emergency stay of a lower court order and allow the Trump administration’s deployment of the California National Guard to continue in Los Angeles — going so far as to argue a president’s federalization of militia can’t be second-guessed by the courts, even if the chief executive mobilized forces from all 50 states and Washington, D.C., simultaneously.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 202 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The DOJ attorney emphasized that “sustained mob violence” in response to ICE raids is “no ordinary civil unrest,” claimed that it is ongoing, and asserted that such violence is “expressly aimed at preventing federal officers from enforcing federal law,” supporting Trump’s federalization of the Golden State’s National Guard.

That's just a lie, isn't it?

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 101 points 1 day ago

Isn't everything the fascist assholes say a lie?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's standard Republican strategy. A lot of the cases that ended up in front of the Supreme Court are straight up manufactured. In the case of the lady who refused to create a website for a gay wedding, they contacted the guy who supposedly made the request and he'd never heard of it before. Republican operatives basically looked up a gay guy in San Francisco and used his details in the website's contact form.

Despite all that, the courts happily took the case and ruled on a complete fiction. Same thing happened in the case of the coach that forced his football team to pray.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

See also: "Weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq.

Literally fabricated "intelligence."

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 70 points 1 day ago

Even if it were true, that does not amount to rebellion. Nobody is trying to overthrow the federal government.

Yet.

Well, it's mostly true. I mean this isn't normal civil unrest. This is the people being fed up with a government trying to use fear as a weapon against it's own people. And the mob violence isn't generally preventing federal officers from doing what they want, it is in response to it. There is some mob shouting preventing some federal officers ftom doing what they want.

But issue at hand is that the law is very vague about the quantity needed to trigger the allowance of using the national guard. By just reading it, ICE could send a single agent to arrest 5 people in a facility that has 500. If the people stop the arrests, then it meets the written requirements. It ludicrous though to interpret it that way of course. But since it was written so poorly, we are at the mercy of the courts.

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 81 points 1 day ago

Tastes like fascism.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 129 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is dictatorship. It's mild only because no one is fighting back. The moment someone tries the gloves will come off.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 20 points 1 day ago

That is how they want everyone to feel so there isn't much fight back. However, I think if there was, and the gloves came off, it may also split Republicans and even Trumpers.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 106 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Telling the court that the court has no say. Bold move Cotton….

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

I mean hes done it before with no consequences so we'll see

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So much to unpack there...

So the bestest president evah now caused a rebellion? Did that ever happen before to any president? Oh yeah, under trump 1 there was January the 6th, instigated and orchestrated by king Cheeto

And now there is another rebellion?

I mean, it's demonstrations but seeing that distinction is hard for smooth brain idiots

Then telling judges that they can't say no because else they can't stop a rebellion? I mean, you STARTED it, if you want to stop it's really easy: STOP BREAKING THE LAW!

And stop telling judges they can't do their job

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

The keyword is rebellion...

But it is not really about current protests ... it is to have all lights on green when there actually IS a rebellion cooking so the response can be swift and far beyond proportions.

[–] Luouth@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"BECAUSE WE SAID SO!! OKAY?!"

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

"Because once we have that power, we'll use it on you if you speak out."

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

That's what authoritarianism is (leaving off the "OKAY?!").

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 59 points 1 day ago

yea, that's how fascism works. "judges" are there to protect the state from the people, not the other way around

[–] albert180@piefed.social 39 points 1 day ago

Sounds like Dictatorship to me

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Rebellion is the American way, fight back

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 31 points 1 day ago

That's some incredibly intense kneeling they're doing right there. Who knew the DOJ was so good at kissing the floor?

[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Whelp. Trump now has the means to get his 3rd term.

[–] card797@champserver.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

You are funny. He'll be dead before even giving the thought that he is running.

Welcome to fascism.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And Harvey Weinstein's lawyers say he's totally innocent too...

trumps been using the DOJ as his own lawyers, they're always gonna say he can do whatever he wants. Literally, they said nothing about this can be weighed on by any court:

“Our view is that this statute commits the decision whether to call up the forces to the president’s unreviewable discretion,” Shumate answered. “So no, there’s no role for the court to play in reviewing that decision.”

It two trump judges and one from Biden. And while the trump judges clearly disagree, they're gonna kick it to the SC.

Which is what was always going to happen here. Newsom isn't dumb enough to think a lawsuit would fix anything, he's just grandstanding because he wants to run for president.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago

It two trump judges and one from Biden. And while the trump judges clearly disagree, they're gonna kick it to the SC.

SCOTUS is an appeals court, they rule on lower court findings.

A lower court can't "kick it to the SC". They have to make a ruling.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

when there is no justice there is.....

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago
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