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[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Cause most of these people are individualistic assholes who only care about themselves. It's part of the American culture.

[–] leninenjoyer@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

highly false. Thats the same kind of bullshit some fascist anti-feminist podcast of bald incel men would say. (Maybe not the observation of amerikkka being individualistic, or individualism being bad, but still.) The shift is because of how capitalism isolates us. And how in Amerikkka how expectations of how social interactions are "supposed to be" shaped effect us. This comment itself is individualistic because you blame people instead of all the larger trends that cause this type of thing. I personally have close friends, but I didnt until 2021 to be honest. Not because I was being an asshole, but because I wasn't going to make friends by going to Mcdonalds and working.

(Also not trying to be an asshole here, but this gets me a bit worked up lol.)

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't blame people I definitely said it's in the culture but ok

[–] leninenjoyer@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well sure, but the culture isnt being an asshole. What I mean is thats it comes off as condescending of people in specific through wording. Hard to put into words but im sure someone knows what I mean.

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Being an asshole is definitely part of the culture, the whole "I got mine fuck you" mentality, the whole superiority of having power (or capital) over someone else, it's literally the ultimate goal in this shitty country and it takes a deep level of deprogramming to undo that shit. Or you could look like me and realize this place wasn't built for you (despite your ancestors literally building everything from the ground up), and see the real ugliness of capitalist culture and how it permeates every fucking facet of our society.

[–] leninenjoyer@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know what quite true. I suppose what I mean is, that is not at all the reason why people dont have friends.

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

No it's not, there are lots of other reasons too, but there's so little focus in our culture or society about forming lasting friendships with people you like and respect, or hell just being decent people to each other.

I thought about the way we develop as children, where we're trained to go to school to prepare us for the capitalist machine, being forced to spend your time with other people that are also forced to be there. Then we're forced to work for survival and be around other people forced to work for survival. There isn't a chance for any meaningful relationships to form. That's not even talking about being a marginalized group because that's a whole different subject

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't think you should blame people for the alienation imposed on them by capitalism. The US has almost no social support structures or places to meet friends outside of school or work. Even those that want to are unable because of long working hours and exhaustion.

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not blaming the people, the capitalist culture does this to people, I'm just pointing out that's the reaction

Man being fucking autistic sucks cause I can't even really get my point across well smh

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cause most of these people are individualistic assholes who only care about themselves.

Are they assholes or aren't they?

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Western culture produces assholes don't they? Do I have to explain the culture here now?