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[-] seananigans@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It’s not uncommon to see people become so swept up on dogma that they lose sight of the humanitarian side of an argument. The simplest fact of the Ukrainian invasion is that it is, well, an invasion- and people are dying and a nation is losing its self-evidently valuable sovereignty.

I by no means rebut how obviously propaganda is wielded in the framing of this war; the narrative bias in the media is clear. It does not make the author by default correct to sanctimoniously act like everyone else is a bunch of dumb dumbs because you identified this.

You only need to ping in to your human side to see that what is happening is a tragedy, furthermore it’s clear the only one who has the stop button to this affair is the head of Russia’s government. You know who I refer to.

Shifting gears entirely, I’d like to peel back the tone and intent of the article as well as the OP who shared this. What is your intent in sharing the article? Without knowing what you mean exactly, I feel that I can’t properly engage in the conversation, you know? What is the relation to communism here besides the clear (and frankly fair) disparaging of the American government’s goals and intent in the narrative being written around the war?

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The simplest fact of the Ukrainian invasion is that it is, well, an invasion- and people are dying and a nation is losing its self-evidently valuable sovereignty.

How many people died in the Donbas between 2014 and 2022 before the SMO started?

[-] seananigans@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Refer to the whole post and reconsider keeping this comment up, please. Whataboutism isn’t going to get you far with me.

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Refer to the whole post and reconsider keeping this comment up, please. Whataboutism isn’t going to get you far with me.

Nah bro, fuck you.

You're concerned about people dying and losing their sovereignty, but only when it's people you care about.

"Whataboutism" means fuck all when you're trying to duck the literal context of the events at hand.

"Whatabout" you be intellectually honest for once.

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