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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

New England. Maybe with NY, you could have New New.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

What you are proposing would start a North American war deadlier than any that has ever been seen. Everyone thought Texas was dumb for talking about secession, but now that other states don’t want to be part of the union, people act like it is a serious idea. It isn’t. Never has been.

In the words of Ben Franklin, “we must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.”

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A bulkanized US would certainly be good for the planet, assuming it survived the preliminary civil wars as nation state boundaries are created and alliances made with Canada and Mexico. Who gains control of all the nukes would be a big question.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

If just my state left, and I could leave to another state, that would be pretty good. Two Republican senators gone, roughly 15 net house reps gone, and an influx of dem refugees like me into neighboring states.

Texas could legit try to make a go of it as an independent nation. It would be a disaster for my family though.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Do states even have a legal way to secede?

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] VampirePenguin@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

No. We'd be overrun by federal troops and decimated within a week. If we could secede peacefully? We (Wisconsin) would probably need an alliance with Minnesota and Michigan to survive.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

While many of my family members have served in the past and do now, the US is not the end all, be all.

I pledge allegiance to a country without borders, Without Politicians

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

We're leaving the east coast? I think they deserve a path too

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Only as a last resort and everything else has been tried.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] matdave@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don't support it, only because my state wouldn't be seperating to join the "good" side

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

If we could do it in a peaceful and democratic way that doesn’t lead to an immediate second civil war, yeah, I’d probably vote for it. It seems to have worked out well enough for Czechia and Slovakia.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, because it would lead to civil war. Do I wish it could happen? Yes. But is it realistic? No.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ah, but Trump does not have the balls, brains, or moral integrity of Abraham Lincoln.

So, we got that going for us.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Personally, absolutely. California subsidizes so many of the red states in this country, and it sucks, because we don’t get the representation we should. We have 10% of the population, but only get 2% of the representation in the Senate.

That being said, I am completely aware that this is Putin’s goal, and that is why there is a lot of discussion online from Russian bot accounts about this.

It sucks when your goals align with Putin’s, because he is such a monster.

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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The first step is refering to yourself as a member of your state and not an American I guess

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I usually refer to myself as Cascadian

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Its part of why I moved out west. That and fear of persecution in the Midwest.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm cool wit dat

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