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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like it's time to not cooperate with the Houston Police in any investigation. Take matters into your own hands.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago

sounds like it's (long past) time to not cooperate with the ~~Houston~~ police in any investigation.

FTFY.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

You have the right to a speedy deportation, anything you say may not fucking matter at all because you sound like your skin is brown so we're deporting you regardless.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 176 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It wasn't until she called the number the next day that she learned the police had called immigration agents on her. The officer who answered the phone told her that the police report noted that ICE had been contacted, and advised her not to make a report in person or risk being detained, she said.

The only good cop is a cop that snitches and tells you not to trust the other cops.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I know I'll get downvoted to hell for this, but I have to stick up for the big Texas metros, especially Austin and Houston. They are in a constant battle against fascist state government as well as federal fuckery. The police department is legally required to alert the appropriate agencies of any open warrants. If they do not comply, the state and federal government will step in. What they are NOT required to do is to warn the victim against possible ICE detention. That is just HPD trying to do better in what is essentially a fucked situation.

SOURCE: Former Austin resident of over twenty years.

PS: That is not to say that those police departments don't have their issues. They have many. But I don't think they are as complicit with Trump's gestapo as the majority of Florida law enforcement is.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If they do not comply, the state and federal government will step in.

So the defense is, to avoid having state and federal jackboots come in, the only solution is to put on jackboots yourself and become part of the problem?

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You misunderstood. I don't mean that the state or the feds will send their own people. I mean that they will literally take the police control away from the city government. The Texas legislature has been very close to doing so a number of times before I left because the city did not want to brutalize the homeless population.

The rest of the country has no idea how much and how often Austin city council butts heads with the state. Liberal council and a fascist state sharing the same.downtown area. The state legislature loves to abuse the city as a way to parade their anti-woke agenda to their rural magats.

Don't even get me started on the gerrymandering of Austin.

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[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

The only reason I've ever seen to call the cops was when someone sped through a light, gained air over a hedge, and smashed hood first into a building. And that was just because i wanted the ambulance to get to them fast.

Noise? Never.
Fights? Never.
Strange noises. Never.
Etc etc.
All they do is cause more problems.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

My general rule of thumb is this:

Is this activity threatening to harm the lives, health, or well-being of anyone? Is this activity going to infringe on anyone else's inalienable human rights (to live, bodily autonomy, to exist without constant fear... Stuff like that)?

If the answers to both of these is a concrete "no" then I do nothing. I mind my own goddamned business and move along.

If someone is doing something that can and likely will end up with someone seriously hurt or dead, then yeah, I'll call and let someone know. Hopefully they can do something before anyone is seriously harmed. If one civilian is being mentally or physically abused by another, and I'm not in a position to intervene in a productive manner, then yeah, I'll call for that too.

If nobody is getting harmed, either mentally, physically, or financially, then I couldn't give any fewer shits. It's illegal? That's nice. The law can only be enforced if people who are tasked with enforcing it, take action. If they're not here, I don't feel any obligation to rat out someone who I don't know anything about. Maybe they're destitute because capitalism, or they're down on their luck, or something... They have a whole life story that I have absolutely no knowledge of.

Also, I don't consider corporations to be people (despite what the law might say), and if there's material/financial harm to a corpo, it would be impossible for me to give any less of a shit that whatever is happening, is happening. Whether theft, or destruction of property, or whatever... No shit will be given for your corpo overlords and/or shareholders. You all can get fucked. So if someone is stealing from.... Idk, Wal-Mart? And I saw that happen.... Then I didn't see anything officer. I don't know what you're talking about. That is an innocent person who has done nothing wrong. Where did they get the Walmart store-brand thing that they didn't pay for? I'm not sure, they probably had it with them before entering the store. I certainly didn't see them take anything that they shouldn't have.

Don't be a rat. Mind your own business; as long as nobody is getting hurt.... and if someone is getting hurt, do everything in your power to resolve the situation before resorting to a call to the police. It's actually really simple.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago (8 children)

When you’re a woman getting the shit beat out of you by a man who could easily kill you (this is the case for the majority of men to the majority of women) and its call the cops or be seriously fucked up or killed it’s a pretty easy choice to make. Domestic violence is often one sided or at least one sided in who is able to defend themselves, it’s not a fight when one side is wildly out matched

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

if there's a breaking and entering you probably have more chance reasoning with the trespasser than having anything good come from pigs showing up.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A random non-cop is probably going to have better de-escalation skills than a cop too

[–] itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Every interaction I've ever had with police I've been the one attempting to de escalate. Literally 100%. What's frustrating is you speaking calmly and clearly pisses them off even more because they feel like you're speaking down to them. They feel like they are supposed to be the reasonable ones and you're making them look bad. Which of course you are, because they're not.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 5 points 18 hours ago

My experience is the opposite, but I realize that's because I'm a white dude.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Depends on your melanin content unfortunately. Fuck racist pigs

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 106 points 1 day ago (48 children)

Voting Republican is voting for evil.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is exactly the use case for not allowing cops to actively help ICE. Not only are there jurisdictional issues, but now you’re discouraging people from calling help when they need it

Similar for drivers licenses. If you get into an accident, do you prefer the other driver to be licensed and insured, and take responsibility, or do you want them uninsured and hit and run?

And SNAP. Please tell me no state requires immigration status, forcing people to starve their kids

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

discouraging people from calling help when they need it

This is literally why they're doing it. Government makes simply existing illegal for a huge class of workers so companies abuse them as much as they want while they're too scared to call for help, no matter how bad it gets. Bonus points if the general population hates them too so even publicity doesn't matter. (Hey, totally unrelated, isn't it great how convicts are so heavily vilified for life?) I know the phrase is way overused, but The Cruelty Is The Point isn't (only) about how psycho some of these people are, it points to how they'll do anything for money.

In the end, though, this a great way for gangs gain power. People aren't going to stop calling for help, they're going to stop calling the police for help. I guess the party of law and order would love a good crime wave.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago

Austin, Houston, and San Antonio have been working for years to try and build a non-adversarial relationship with the massive hispanic population in their area. This is key to keeping crime rates low and communities safe. Millions of dollars and thousands of hours spent on community outreach and relationship building, and Trump just takes a shit on it all overnight.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For additional context, immigration law includes specific carveouts for domestic abuse. Under the law, a victim of domestic violence cannot be deported legally regardless of their immigration status.

Party of no law and no order.

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