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    Desktop PTSD (lemmy.zip)
    submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by sanderium@lemmy.zip to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     

    alt text: Scene of The Punisher where he is desperate having a nightmare, captioned "When a tiling window manager user has to use a MacOS/Windows desktop"

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    [–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I’ve been working on my own macOS tiling window manager inspired by Gtile for gnome. I’ll probably put it on github at some point.

    [–] sanderium@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

    That is dope man!

    [–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    The real crime is how MacOS window animations take forever and don't switch input focus immediately.

    [–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    Maybe I’m weird, but I prefer the animations. It feels more natural than things just popping into my view in my opinion.

    I don't take issue with the animations per se. They could be faster and transfer input immediately, and I would take no issue.

    [–] sanderium@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

    That is true, animations can make your brain understand that something changed position faster than if they teleported.

    [–] dukatos@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago

    And if you disable animations, you still have to wait for focus. But the worst behavior is when you minimize a window and later cmd+tab to it and all windows just lose focus.

    [–] Sidhean@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago

    Using Windows feels like wading through mud. eeeuch

    [–] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Okay give me the short and simple. What window manager should I try. I'm using an off shoot of Fedora.

    [–] foxido@social.cutie.team 6 points 1 day ago

    Hyprland is awesome. Simple config + good out of the box experience

    But for almost all tiling managers I recommend you steal your first config from r/unixporn and then just adapt it

    @POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com @sanderium@lemmy.zip

    [–] scytale@lemmy.zip 1 points 22 hours ago

    Openbox. Simple and efficient.

    I quite like Hyprland

    [–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    BSPWM + lxqt/ xfce (lxqt recommended)

    You'll also need SXHKD for better and easier shortcut handling

    [–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 2 points 14 hours ago

    I prefer KMFDM/XKCD.

    [–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

    Linux developers can't name their products any better than they name their variables.

    "Programming done, time to publish, now it just needs a name..." briefly pauses, then smashes face into keyboard... "There! ... ehh, no, still missing something." clicks random spot, types X... "Perfect! Send it!"

    [–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    For a long time I used the music player ncmpcpp. The name makes perfect sense if you already know what it means and how it relates to other things.

    [–] Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    No Cunts Music Player (written in) C Plus Plus. that's my guess

    [–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    It did make sense at one point. They implemented a music player with a daemon part and a client part, so from that you had the mpd server and mpc client. Someone wrote an ncurses frontend for the client, naturally called ncmpc. Iirc that person abandoned it and someone else took over with a new iteration. ncmpcpp. But it really is a bad name.

    [–] Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

    That's a cool story though. But yeah the name is a bit lettersoupy

    [–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    To be fair, neither can enterprise outfits.

    Teams

    New Teams

    Teams (new)

    Probably more that I forgot

    [–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 4 points 14 hours ago

    Neither can Nintendo.

    3DS
    New 3DS
    Wii
    Wii U

    Well, they at least got the name of Switch 2 right. They finally learned.

    [–] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)
    [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago

    On KDE, I'd recommend getting a KWin Script for tiling. Krohnkite is what people use currently.

    It's not as buttery smooth as dedicated tiling window managers and it can be a bit glitchy at times, but it is better than one might expect and significantly easier (and likely less glitchy) than trying to get bspwm to work in Plasma.

    [–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 20 hours ago

    Technically you could changethe window manager of KDE Plasma to BSPWM, but I wouldn't recommend it as it is such a tightly knit package

    [–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I don't use Windows anymore but Microsoft Powertoys exist. And I have no clue why they don't ship it with Windows by default...

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

    Because like most things made for power users: it confuses and terrifies regular users.

    Seriously, even with something as simple as Fancy Zones, regular users would get frustrated when they move a window while accidentally or purposely holding shift and their window reshapes itself.

    [–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

    It's always my first install after Firefox.

    [–] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Installed komorebi + altdrag + autohotkey + fluent search on my work windows, janky af but "works"

    [–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

    Mac has an absence of window management. it's like the product owner stopped thinking halfway through the desktop experience and handed it over to the intern.

    when demo day came the PO saw it and was shocked at how horrible it was but had to sell it to save their own ass.

    they opened the whole demo with, "I want you to think about this experience and stop, then...think differently."

    Wdym mouse? Might as well give me a touchscreen...

    [–] traches@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

    It’s true, I’m completely broken. I can’t even use a stacking window manager on Linux, I’m instantly pissed off

    [–] Ooops@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

    As much as I despise Windows while also using archlinux/i3-wm as my daily driver...

    Tiling is no rocket science. Basically every stacking window manager including Windows can do it well enough to be usable with just a few properly configured defaults and short-keys.

    [–] Bonje@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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    [–] Beacon@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    There are tiling window managers for win and mac too, so i don't think this meme makes sense

    [–] sudo@programming.dev 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    "Window Managers" don't exist on windows and mac. There's third party programs that re-position your windows. But you can't replace the window manager for these OSs. AFAIK they don't have a concept of a window manager. Its all one seemless desktop experience.

    Love to be proven wrong or at least shown an adequate alternate. Because pic is me in a few weeks. Goodbye slack, google, and zoom. Hello M$ TEAMS.

    [–] Beacon@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I'm not clear on what the distinction is that you're referring to. How are the Linux window managers different than the win/mac ones?

    [–] muix@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    Window managers in Linux take direct command from the display server (Xorg, Wayland, etc.) to decide where to position windows and what they should look like. Whereas "window managers" on MacOS/Windows are tricking the original window manager provided by the OS into positioning windows a certain way. I'm simplifying here, but hope that clears things up.

    [–] Beacon@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Thanks for the info, but what is the functional difference to the end user?

    [–] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago

    They're limited by what the original window manager allows them to do. Sway has its whole own window manager, so it can do whatever it wants.

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    [–] sudo@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Window_manager

    • Stacking (aka floating) window managers provide the traditional desktop metaphor used in commercial operating systems like Windows and macOS. Windows act like pieces of paper on a desk, and can be stacked on top of each other. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Stacking window managers.
    • Tiling window managers "tile" the windows so that none are overlapping. They usually make very extensive use of key-bindings and have less (or no) reliance on the mouse. Tiling window managers may be manual, offer predefined layouts, or both. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Tiling window managers.
    • Dynamic window managers can dynamically switch between tiling or floating window layout. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Dynamic window managers.

    Mac and Windows window managers aren't different from Linux window managers. (Other than being difficult or impossible to replace). What you are calling "window managers" are software that reposition the windows after the actual window manager has positioned it.

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    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

    It honestly feels like an alien device to me... wdym, firefox-nightly isn't just in WS 3, reachable by pressing Super + 3, but somewhere in that list in of Alt + Tab and I have to search that shit?

    [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I use Rectangle whenever I need to do some tiling go decent effect.

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    [–] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

    Outlook has a ChatGPT tab now. Good times good times.

    [–] sudo@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

    This me. Gonna set up RDP and just remote in from my desktop. I'd rather find a new job than be that unproductive.

    [–] Obnomus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

    Can confirm

    The reverse for me lol. Mouse-heavy user here

    [–] Outsider9042@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Too real. Haven’t used Windows in over 20 years. New job has locked down SOE laptops. I’m not even allowed to install putty without permission.

    I use niri btw.

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