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[–] KHROMATIKAL@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago

Stop sharing and platforming the nazi

Also, this tierlist sucks fucking balls

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Never seen anoyone rank brave alongside or even above standard firefox.

No Mull?

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 35 points 1 day ago

This is a random screenshot he used in hos video for roughly 2 seconds. This is not his tierlist.

[–] 6R1MR34P3R@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago

Not of his. This is a known widespread tierlist made by other person (I do not remember if this came from Reddit, a YT video or what, but it is well known)

[–] Censed@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago

I've looked into it and it's not even his tier list, just one he found online.

[–] numblyscabbyeach@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

I couldn't care less about what this character says.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 129 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Just because PewDiePie switched to Linux doesn't mean we should listen to his browser recommendations

[–] killerscene@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago

not his recommendations

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

True but he's sparking more interest in FOSS so that's still a good thing. I doubt his advice is perfect but if it gets more people started onto their own journey it's a win.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

You're right about that, I was moreso saying that his crappy browser tier list isn't worth sharing

[–] IDew@feddit.nl 17 points 2 days ago

Very true, I feel like people miss the point of his own experience and/or opinion

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[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 147 points 2 days ago (20 children)

Brave is a series scam company.

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 days ago

Exactly I'd even use Chrome before I'd ever touch Brave.

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[–] WQMan@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ngl, feel like his tier list is based on usability while avoiding big tech.

Tbh even if this tierlist is not the best or great, it still is "good enough". Plus the most important thing is to get tons of people interested.

I rather have "good enough" tier list that reaches to millions of people, then have a perfect tierlist that only reaches out to less than a dozen people.

Because amongst the millions of people who are interested, thousands of them will do their own research into privacy and dig deeper into it.


Plus right now, the biggest weakness of privacy is the fact that our community is too small to make an impact.

Having someone give this much outreach and influence to attract attention towards privacy is a good thing. (well, as long as their advice are on the positive end of the spectrum, and pewdiepie's advise surely is, even if its not perfect)

[–] RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Sir, this is 2025, we don't do nuanced opinions here anymore.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 41 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What exactly has he done to warrant considering this? He's a yt star, not a privacy expert.

[–] killerscene@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] ech@lemm.ee 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Somehow even less useful, since the source can't even be verified.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's vitally important to know which browser is preferred by the guy who says slurs to an audience of children

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 60 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I know it's been said, but Brave is a hard no. Replace it with Ungoogled Chromium. I haven't seen the video so I don't understand why it's in the "not ideal for a normal human" list, and I am biased since I use plenty of "not for normal" tools.

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[–] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 day ago

Ppl focusing on the negative. It's just his subjective list. He doesn't claim to be an expert. Lemmy autism peaking here. More exposure to foss is good guys

[–] basilisa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It makes a lot of sense for someone like him to promote brave tbh

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

He did not promote it though. He said he uses firefox.

[–] mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that is not his list, just a random screenshot.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah i just checked the video and it appeared for like 2 seconds as a side note. He never even tried Brave apparently.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 31 points 2 days ago

... I don't think listening to random big influencers is a good way forward (in anything).

(As to the list - others already pointed out everything, y'all nerds know shit! <3)

[–] Censed@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I kinda think Floorp is better than waterfox

[–] Pandasdontfly@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Floorp is amazing

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 28 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Brave? Hard no. Vivaldi? Also no.

Also, where are qutebrowser and Zen?

qutebrowser and IceCat are real top of the game when it comes to privacy. But then, they break some of the sites functionality, especially IceCat who seems to be going under the "if your site doesn't work, it's your site's problem" motto.

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[–] M68040@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wait. He hasn't crumbled into dust or whatever these "Offputting guy with shit politics who has an inexplicable army of irritating tween fans" youtubers do when they're past their shelf life? I thought he was irritating when I was in high school. That was...what, thirteen years ago now?

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's a good find that famous people are getting into FOSS (should be free as in freedom too). But it's really not a good thing that they spread a non expert speaking to the crowd.

Tier lists are meant to be mainly subjective and pretty relative to the person that made it. In that way Pewdipie could quote experts but in no case should make a tier list based on what he found the last weeks (I didn't fully watched the video so maybe I'm wrong and he made a big disclaimer)

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[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Where's ladybird

Edit - I didn't know about the Transphobia going on there. that is unjustifiable.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 9 points 1 day ago (8 children)

In the trash with the rest of the transphobes

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Still in development

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