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‘We have all the cards’: Trump ending all trade talks with Canada ‘immediately’ over digital services tax

By Spencer Van Dyk

Updated: June 27, 2025 at 5:29PM EDT

Published: June 27, 2025 at 1:53PM EDT

U.S. President Donald Trump says his team is ending all trade talks with Canada, “effective immediately,” citing disagreement over Canada’s controversial digital services tax as the reason for shutting down negotiations.

He made the announcement in a post Friday on Truth Social, calling the levy “a direct and blatant attack” on the U.S. and its technology companies.

Trump’s announcement is a wrench in ongoing trade discussions between the two countries, which have been in the throes of a trade war for months, since the president’s first slate of tariffs on Canadian goods in February.

Trump has since levied a series of sweeping and stacked tariffs on Canadian products, targeting a range of industries. Canadian countermeasures are also in place.

Prime Minister Mark Carney, meanwhile, held a closed-to-media meeting with members of the Prime Minister’s Council on Canada-U.S. Relations earlier Friday.

On his way out of the meeting, the prime minister told reporters he had not spoken with the president since the latter posted to Truth Social.

“The Canadian government will continue to engage in these complex negotiations with the United States in the best interests of Canadian workers and businesses,” reads a statement from the Prime Minister’s Office Friday afternoon.

Following the G7 meetings in Kananaskis, Alta. earlier this month, Trump and Carney said they would pursue negotiations toward a new trade and security deal by mid-July, a 30-day deadline from their discussions in the Rockies.

Trump, however, now says he’s ending the talks.

“We will let Canada know the Tariff that they will be paying to do business with the United States of America within the next seven-day period,” Trump wrote in his Truth Social post.

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office Friday afternoon, Trump initially refused to answer a question about Canada, saying he was dealing with a “much more important subject,” signing a peace agreement between Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

When he was asked again about trade negotiations, however, he said: “Canada has been a very difficult country to deal with over the years,” and calling the government “foolish” for implementing the tax.

“They put a tax on companies that were American companies that they shouldn’t. A very, very severe tax,” Trump said. “And, yeah, I guess they could remove it. They will. But I mean, it doesn’t matter to me.”

“We have all the cards. We have all the cards,” he added. “You know, we do a lot of business with Canada, but relatively little. They do most of their businesses with us. And when you have that circumstance, you treat people better.”

Digital services tax ‘discriminatory’: former U.S. trade rep

The tax — first pitched by the Liberals in their 2021 budget — sees the federal government impose a three per cent levy on revenues over $20 million from tech giants earning money off Canadian content and Canadian users.

It has been deeply unpopular and widely criticized by American lawmakers for years. They argue the policy disproportionately impacts U.S. companies, with former Biden administration U.S. trade representative Katherine Tai calling the levy “discriminatory.”

The first payment of the tax is due Monday and will charge retroactively to 2022.

In an interview on CTV’s Question Period in December, former Liberal finance minister Bill Morneau told host Vassy Kapelos that if the Canadian government wanted to make headway with the U.S. administration, it should look at scrapping some sticking-point policies, namely the digital services tax.

Feds standing by controversial tax

Asked about the levy by reporters on Parliament Hill last week, Finance Minister François-Philippe Champagne said the government was still planning to “go ahead” with the digital services tax.

In French, asked whether his government is willing to scrap the tax, Champagne said “we’re not there at all.” He added the tax was a topic of conversation at the G7 meeting earlier this month, and called it a “neutral” tax, which “isn’t directed toward any particular country.”

Foreign Affairs Minister Anita Anand said in an interview with CTV News Friday that Canada will continue to “press in terms of Canadian interests.”

“I want to stress that our negotiations occur behind closed doors for a reason, that we need to continue to ensure that Canadian interests are protected at every turn, and we are disadvantaged if we continue to share strategy externally with the media,” Anand said. “But, I will say that the guiding principle of these negotiations is to ensure that these unjustified tariffs are removed, and that is our fundamental starting point.”

Anand also pointed to the U.K. and France having digital services taxes of their own, an argument often cited by the previous Liberal government under former prime minister Justin Trudeau when faced with criticisms of the policy.

Tax should be ‘expendable’ in negotiations: Manley

In a statement to CTV News, Business Council of Canada president and CEO Goldy Hyder said his organization has been calling for the federal government to scrap the tax for years.

“Bottom line is, (Internal Trade Minister) Chrystia Freeland, when she was finance minister, booked the revenues, and now they’re due,” Hyder said. “And these American companies have been asking that we align with the OECD and determine how to manage this.”

Hyder said he’s been in contact with Champagne about the business council’s position on the tax, and while he wouldn’t divulge the contents of those conversations, said “suffice to say, he has no intention of removing it.”

“And, if we were bluffing, the bluff just got called, and we’ve got to midnight Monday to get through this,” Hyder added.

Meanwhile, former Liberal finance minister John Manley said Canada should “keep calm and carry on” in the face of Trump’s reversal, telling CTV News “it’s not a trade negotiation unless somebody throws a tantrum.”

“We’re dealing with Donald Trump, after all,” he said.

Manley said the Carney government should be willing to concede the digital services tax if it gets the two countries closer to a deal, calling the levy “expendable,” but adding negotiators should hold out until there are concessions from the U.S. side before putting the levy on the table.

“If you’ve got something in a negotiation that you’re willing to give up, you don’t offer that off the top,” he said. “You hold back for the end.”

The parliamentary budget officer has estimated the tax will generate $7.2 billion in revenues for the federal government over five years.

With files from CTV News’ Judy Trinh and Luca Caruso-Moro

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 minute ago

Trump can keep on saying he has all the cards but we all know he's a few cards short of a deck.

[–] Gudl@feddit.org 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

And 0 marbles

[–] Airowird@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago

When Trump says he holds all the cards, I always think of games like Uno, or Blackjack. Meanwhile the rest of the world is playing chess.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 21 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Sounds like more reason to get off Microsoft/Apple/Google/Meta/Amazon/etc

It was never clever to allow such monopolies, but now it just geopolitically dangerous.

Canada should be trying to move as much to open source as it can, as fast as it can.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

Canada / Europe should be FUNDING open source projects and moving away from the US giants.

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 3 points 51 minutes ago

to piggy back off this over the past year I've done just that. I've switched to all European and Canadian companies or just straight up FOSS stuff for my services.

OS: Linux

Email: Malio, Tuta

Search: SearX

Cloud Storage: Filen

PW Management: Bitwarden

Browser: QuteBrowser

Video: Invidious, Peertube, Freetube, Private JellyFin server

Online Purchasing: easy, buy directly from the source and/or locally. Amazon was actually probably the easiest to switch.

[–] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 41 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The 400% dairy tax is always brought up and proved to be not true. The tax only goes that high if way more than has ever been shipped gets shipped to Canada. Canadians don't buy your milk cause we have standards and don't want it.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 minutes ago

Yeah I generally prefer dairy products coming from a farm as close to me as possible. Dairy from another country just seems insane. Before the 51st state nonsense maybe I'd buy cheese from the US, but now I don't want anything made in the US.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 36 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

“We will let Canada know the Tariff that they will be paying”

All these months later and fuckhead still thinks tariffs are a tax on other countries.

[–] Airowird@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Technically, they do pay it ... but nothing stops them charging US consumers for it first.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 28 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Learning is woke. True patriots stick to their misconceptions for life.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 20 points 9 hours ago

Meanwhile, Carney will hopefully be signing new trade deals with Japan, Mexico, and Europe, freezing the US out entirely. They should also maybe shut off the oil pipelines coming out of ‘Berta.

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 69 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Last time the administration said another country didn’t have any cards they destroyed a quarter of Russia’s strategic bomber fleet a few weeks later.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 24 points 12 hours ago

Well, the administration via ICE killed a Canadian citizen a couple of days ago.

I'd be ok with the fleet of vehicles they use to suddenly become violently stripped of parts in every direction. That would be fun.

[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 46 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

"We have all the cards" like this is some kind of game.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 37 points 12 hours ago

Well, it is a game, when you stand to lose nothing personally, and could not care less about any of the billions of people affected; because none of those people is you.

[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

He has all the cards but everyone is playing chess

[–] jve@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

What ever happened to all that 4d chess we used to hear qanon rattling on about?

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago

No one cares dude. The worlds moving on without you.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 36 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

He isn't holding anything other than a diaper full of shit.

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

Yes, but he has all the shit.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Remember when the Canada wildfires caused a toilet paper shortage in the USA. The USA is about to be in a world of poop.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Good thing I have a bidet and towels.

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

And socks in a pinch.

[–] ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works 10 points 12 hours ago

Surprised his hands are big enough to pull up those big boy pants.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 31 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

“They put a tax on companies that were American companies that they shouldn’t. A very, very severe tax,” Trump said. “And, yeah, I guess they could remove it. They will. But I mean, it doesn’t matter to me.”

“We have all the cards. We have all the cards,”

So, if I'm understanding this correctly, you hold all the cards, but it's up to Canada to decide whether or not they remove the very, very severe tax, and you have no idea if they will or not? How is it that you hold all the cards? 🤔

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

He's playing Uno, he have all the card.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

He's playing Durak, where if you are the last one left with cards in your hands, you are the titular Fool the game is named after.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

He’s playing Pokémon, and everyone else is playing Bridge.

[–] Dagamant@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

No, he’s playing 52 pickup and doesn’t realize the jokes on him because he managed to get all the cards picked up.

[–] Not2Dopey@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 hours ago
[–] walktheplank@lemmy.world 26 points 12 hours ago

See ya fat boy.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'll be sitting around our survivor camp telling my grandchildren where I was when Trump single-handedly destroyed the US homebuilding industry.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Yeah!! That shitgibbon is cutting down US national parks just to not buy our lumber. Is MAGA happening yet?

Which is the bigger tragedy - losing all those trees, habitats and wildlife or the fact that his sycophants think it’s a great idea.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago

Trump "you don't have any cards" The next thing you know Ukraine has destroyed Russia's bomber force. Trump "we have all the cards." Stay tuned next week to see how he learned nothing.

[–] PodPerson@lemmy.zip 11 points 11 hours ago

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER

SIGNED DONAKD TRUMP

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago
[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

All because Trudeu was hitting on Melania

[–] mPony@kbin.earth 1 points 23 seconds ago
[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

You win again, autocorrect.

[–] Uff@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago

It's not like Canadians aren't already paying tax on behalf of the rich anyway.