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‘We have all the cards’: Trump ending all trade talks with Canada ‘immediately’ over digital services tax

By Spencer Van Dyk

Updated: June 27, 2025 at 5:29PM EDT

Published: June 27, 2025 at 1:53PM EDT

U.S. President Donald Trump says his team is ending all trade talks with Canada, “effective immediately,” citing disagreement over Canada’s controversial digital services tax as the reason for shutting down negotiations.

He made the announcement in a post Friday on Truth Social, calling the levy “a direct and blatant attack” on the U.S. and its technology companies.

Trump’s announcement is a wrench in ongoing trade discussions between the two countries, which have been in the throes of a trade war for months, since the president’s first slate of tariffs on Canadian goods in February.

Trump has since levied a series of sweeping and stacked tariffs on Canadian products, targeting a range of industries. Canadian countermeasures are also in place.

Prime Minister Mark Carney, meanwhile, held a closed-to-media meeting with members of the Prime Minister’s Council on Canada-U.S. Relations earlier Friday.

On his way out of the meeting, the prime minister told reporters he had not spoken with the president since the latter posted to Truth Social.

“The Canadian government will continue to engage in these complex negotiations with the United States in the best interests of Canadian workers and businesses,” reads a statement from the Prime Minister’s Office Friday afternoon.

Following the G7 meetings in Kananaskis, Alta. earlier this month, Trump and Carney said they would pursue negotiations toward a new trade and security deal by mid-July, a 30-day deadline from their discussions in the Rockies.

Trump, however, now says he’s ending the talks.

“We will let Canada know the Tariff that they will be paying to do business with the United States of America within the next seven-day period,” Trump wrote in his Truth Social post.

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office Friday afternoon, Trump initially refused to answer a question about Canada, saying he was dealing with a “much more important subject,” signing a peace agreement between Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

When he was asked again about trade negotiations, however, he said: “Canada has been a very difficult country to deal with over the years,” and calling the government “foolish” for implementing the tax.

“They put a tax on companies that were American companies that they shouldn’t. A very, very severe tax,” Trump said. “And, yeah, I guess they could remove it. They will. But I mean, it doesn’t matter to me.”

“We have all the cards. We have all the cards,” he added. “You know, we do a lot of business with Canada, but relatively little. They do most of their businesses with us. And when you have that circumstance, you treat people better.”

Digital services tax ‘discriminatory’: former U.S. trade rep

The tax — first pitched by the Liberals in their 2021 budget — sees the federal government impose a three per cent levy on revenues over $20 million from tech giants earning money off Canadian content and Canadian users.

It has been deeply unpopular and widely criticized by American lawmakers for years. They argue the policy disproportionately impacts U.S. companies, with former Biden administration U.S. trade representative Katherine Tai calling the levy “discriminatory.”

The first payment of the tax is due Monday and will charge retroactively to 2022.

In an interview on CTV’s Question Period in December, former Liberal finance minister Bill Morneau told host Vassy Kapelos that if the Canadian government wanted to make headway with the U.S. administration, it should look at scrapping some sticking-point policies, namely the digital services tax.

Feds standing by controversial tax

Asked about the levy by reporters on Parliament Hill last week, Finance Minister François-Philippe Champagne said the government was still planning to “go ahead” with the digital services tax.

In French, asked whether his government is willing to scrap the tax, Champagne said “we’re not there at all.” He added the tax was a topic of conversation at the G7 meeting earlier this month, and called it a “neutral” tax, which “isn’t directed toward any particular country.”

Foreign Affairs Minister Anita Anand said in an interview with CTV News Friday that Canada will continue to “press in terms of Canadian interests.”

“I want to stress that our negotiations occur behind closed doors for a reason, that we need to continue to ensure that Canadian interests are protected at every turn, and we are disadvantaged if we continue to share strategy externally with the media,” Anand said. “But, I will say that the guiding principle of these negotiations is to ensure that these unjustified tariffs are removed, and that is our fundamental starting point.”

Anand also pointed to the U.K. and France having digital services taxes of their own, an argument often cited by the previous Liberal government under former prime minister Justin Trudeau when faced with criticisms of the policy.

Tax should be ‘expendable’ in negotiations: Manley

In a statement to CTV News, Business Council of Canada president and CEO Goldy Hyder said his organization has been calling for the federal government to scrap the tax for years.

“Bottom line is, (Internal Trade Minister) Chrystia Freeland, when she was finance minister, booked the revenues, and now they’re due,” Hyder said. “And these American companies have been asking that we align with the OECD and determine how to manage this.”

Hyder said he’s been in contact with Champagne about the business council’s position on the tax, and while he wouldn’t divulge the contents of those conversations, said “suffice to say, he has no intention of removing it.”

“And, if we were bluffing, the bluff just got called, and we’ve got to midnight Monday to get through this,” Hyder added.

Meanwhile, former Liberal finance minister John Manley said Canada should “keep calm and carry on” in the face of Trump’s reversal, telling CTV News “it’s not a trade negotiation unless somebody throws a tantrum.”

“We’re dealing with Donald Trump, after all,” he said.

Manley said the Carney government should be willing to concede the digital services tax if it gets the two countries closer to a deal, calling the levy “expendable,” but adding negotiators should hold out until there are concessions from the U.S. side before putting the levy on the table.

“If you’ve got something in a negotiation that you’re willing to give up, you don’t offer that off the top,” he said. “You hold back for the end.”

The parliamentary budget officer has estimated the tax will generate $7.2 billion in revenues for the federal government over five years.

With files from CTV News’ Judy Trinh and Luca Caruso-Moro

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[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 3 points 36 minutes ago

I love it.

The more Trump fucks around and shits his pants, the stronger Canada becomes building new trade partners and new deals with stable countries who have stable leaders.

Even if we make a deal with the USA, they'll probably go back on it a few months later. Keep going you old orange bag of fuck juiced mayonnaise. The USA can fuck itself in the asshole with a pineapple. We're moving on.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 minutes ago

Personally, as a Canadian, I'd rather never have anything to do with, or buy anything from, the US again. Yes it will hurt in the short term however I think Canada's best future involves acting as if the US only exists as a threat - Russia, North Korea & Iran all rolled into one.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

Is the dairy tariff he's talking about anything out of the ordinary? It sounds like a lot phrased that way. Curious as to what the full story is about that.

[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Worthless bastard trying to look tough again?

You ain't tough, you pantywaist. You are an addled halfwit and guess what, everyone outside of the MAGAt morons brigade, knows it.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago
  1. Recall the ambassador
  2. Have Doug (and Mo?) turn out the lights
  3. Wait for the phone call to pass along the new pricing (1% higher permanently each time he pulls this shit) take it or leave it.
[–] sirico@feddit.uk 3 points 2 hours ago

Dude talks about cards more than the average black lotus enjoyer

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago

Hahaha no you don’t

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Maybe he should ask the Americans living close to the border how many cards he really has.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Hey fuckface Muricans - when you want to do business in a country that’s not your own - spoiler alert: you follow that country’s laws. Don’t like it? Then fuck off and do your business somewhere else. We’ll be fine without your US shitmaganda.

[–] neuromorph@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago

Suspicious timing with the Canadian citizen dying in am ICE detention camp

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

not relevant but i like Rubio's tiara here.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Like Zelenskyy said. We are not playing cards. But brainless orange pant filler still thinks there is a card game going on when there are no cards.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Trump is not playing cards, he is playing shit on the carpet, and he thinks he is winning, because nobody else is doing it.
But all he is doing is leaving a huge stink in USA, making life worse for Americans, and keeping everybody else away.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

TACO has all the Pokemon cards, too bad this is a Poker game

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Or maybe this is Bridge, where you need to have a good partner, but trump is playing alone against 3. 🤣

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago

Carney already proved the other month that Trump has no cards and no balls.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 15 points 12 hours ago

Trump can keep on saying he has all the cards but we all know he's a few cards short of a deck.

[–] Gudl@feddit.org 25 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 26 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Muscle_Meteor@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 14 hours ago

And 0 marbles

[–] Airowird@lemm.ee 11 points 14 hours ago

When Trump says he holds all the cards, I always think of games like Uno, or Blackjack. Meanwhile the rest of the world is playing chess.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 46 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Sounds like more reason to get off Microsoft/Apple/Google/Meta/Amazon/etc

It was never clever to allow such monopolies, but now it just geopolitically dangerous.

Canada should be trying to move as much to open source as it can, as fast as it can.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Canada / Europe should be FUNDING open source projects and moving away from the US giants.

[–] hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago

Right? This is a no-brainer. Builds a technical workforce, creates Canadian businesses that pays taxes to Canada (instead of giving money to American companies who pay taxes to the US), saves an incredible amount of money that is currently spent on bullshit licenses to Microsoft, Google, etc. Not to mention the security implications of using American software in the Canadian government.

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

to piggy back off this over the past year I've done just that. I've switched to all European and Canadian companies or just straight up FOSS stuff for my services.

OS: Linux

Email: Malio, Tuta

Search: SearX

Cloud Storage: Filen

PW Management: Bitwarden

Browser: QuteBrowser

Video: Invidious, Peertube, Freetube, Private JellyFin server

Online Purchasing: easy, buy directly from the source and/or locally. Amazon was actually probably the easiest to switch.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 4 points 7 hours ago

The consumer can only really be expected to do so much. Fail of governments / regulators can't really be fixed by consumer action. Realistically, you can't get many to understand and care. We need to pressure governments to do their job. Now the problem isn't academic. It's national security and the tax money and control lost to American big tech is now a political problem. Be a lot easier if they hadn't been a sleep on the job and ignoring digital rights and competition experts, but we are where we are.

[–] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 60 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The 400% dairy tax is always brought up and proved to be not true. The tax only goes that high if way more than has ever been shipped gets shipped to Canada. Canadians don't buy your milk cause we have standards and don't want it.

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 1 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

American milk tastes funky.

[–] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

Bovine somatotropin tastes funny.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I generally prefer dairy products coming from a farm as close to me as possible. Dairy from another country just seems insane. Before the 51st state nonsense maybe I'd buy cheese from the US, but now I don't want anything made in the US.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It's more than that.

Even before they fired all their inspectors, their milk didn't meet our health and safety standards. Now, with no inspectors, we're sure it won't but they're not even able to check.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 59 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

“We will let Canada know the Tariff that they will be paying”

All these months later and fuckhead still thinks tariffs are a tax on other countries.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 42 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Learning is woke. True patriots stick to their misconceptions for life.

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[–] mercano@lemmy.world 89 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Last time the administration said another country didn’t have any cards they destroyed a quarter of Russia’s strategic bomber fleet a few weeks later.

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[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (4 children)

"We have all the cards" like this is some kind of game.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 day ago

Well, it is a game, when you stand to lose nothing personally, and could not care less about any of the billions of people affected; because none of those people is you.

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[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 27 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, Carney will hopefully be signing new trade deals with Japan, Mexico, and Europe, freezing the US out entirely. They should also maybe shut off the oil pipelines coming out of ‘Berta.

[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What's great is Canada is pushing forward will alternative negotiations. The US should know that they need to get to the table immediately before all the deals are done

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Butt, since they “have all the cards” why would the US do that!?

I’m beginning to think Trump doesn’t really know what it means to “have all the cards.” I suspect that’s why he was unable to successfully run a casino. More than once.

[–] kablammy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 minutes ago

Any amount of cards feels like a lot when the hands holding them are tiny.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago (6 children)

He isn't holding anything other than a diaper full of shit.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

He's just spent a couple of days being fellated by the entirety of NATO countries, including the Dutch royal family, so he feels like he's the top dog in everything once more.

Just be like China and ignore his hollow threats

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

“They put a tax on companies that were American companies that they shouldn’t. A very, very severe tax,” Trump said. “And, yeah, I guess they could remove it. They will. But I mean, it doesn’t matter to me.”

“We have all the cards. We have all the cards,”

So, if I'm understanding this correctly, you hold all the cards, but it's up to Canada to decide whether or not they remove the very, very severe tax, and you have no idea if they will or not? How is it that you hold all the cards? 🤔

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

He's playing Uno, he have all the card.

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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago

No one cares dude. The worlds moving on without you.

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