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So, Trump and many Republicans are HAPPY about the Big Beautiful Bill. I am trying to get inside the mind of someone who voted for Trump who is happy about the bill. What exactly are they happy about?

This is a serious question. I honestly just want to know what the average Trump voter who pulls in maybe 40k a year? Why is he smiling about this bill?

Serious answers only please.

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[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're happy that they "won." They have no idea what the bill does, they trust that a failed businessman has their best interests at heart, so whatever he's doing must be good for them.

Any of these people who take the time to learn what any of these policies actually mean quickly become not-Republicans.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Any of these people who take the time to learn what any of these policies actually mean quickly ~~become not-Republicans~~ start to disbelieve reality and declare the truth as, "fake news."

FTFY πŸ‘

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'd say if they write it off as fake news, they didn't take the time to learn. But I guess that's just semantics.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Because Trump delivered on something with a catchy name and then signed it in on July 4th with theatrics. Propaganda works. Maybe they're about to have a kid and they heard about the savings account with a thousand dollars deposit from the federal government. It has come to my attention that a great number of people in this country do not pay attention or keep track with politics with more than a shallow interest. So when things get worse for them or a benefit they should have isn't there they won't notice or blame Democrats.

They’ll notice, and they will blame democrats

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

"MY TEAM WON"

In short, brain dead hooligan mentality.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

This isn’t the place to ask if you want a real answer.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

american politics is little more than a team sport and they're simply happy that their team won; it's the same reason why democrats insisted that you vote for our last administration despite how supportive they were of the gazan genocide.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You clearly don't understand the concept of harm reduction

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

i know it's difficult for most democrats to pay attention beyond the propaganda cloud, but try to open your eyes and see the news articles confirming that that the last administration didn't even bother to ask or even pressure netanyahu to stop the genocide.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

You really think you're the smart one in every room you're in dont you?

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[–] Townlately@feddit.nl 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Correct, Biden admin did nothing to mitigate and Harris promised nothing would change under her administration. Truth hurts.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Literally everyone knows that.
Harm reduction was about making sure it didn't get even worse with Trump in charge.

And here we are.

[–] Townlately@feddit.nl 0 points 2 weeks ago

Respectfully, may I ask what the end game of "harm reduction" is? Isn't it just kicking the can down the road?

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

.ml user says other people find it difficult to look past propaganda lmao

[–] OhHiMarx@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Where are they wrong?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

🀦

A KGB spy and a CIA agent meet up in a bar for a friendly drink.

β€œI have to admit, I’m always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up,” the CIA agent says.

β€œThank you,” the KGB says. β€œWe do our best but truly, it’s nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them.”

The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. β€œThank you friend, but you must be confused… There’s no propaganda in America.”

https://lemmy.ml/comment/12094932

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

There's a HUGE body of evidence that proves Americans are the most propagandized people on the planet and this response, willfully ignoring the facts, is both telling and indicative of this country's future.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

i know it's difficult for most democrats to pay attention beyond the propaganda cloud, but try to open your eyes

continues to completely miss the main point of the comment.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yes you did; there was literally zero attempt at "harm reduction"

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You are right, I heard Kamala was planning to implement project 2025 if dumpy didn't. /s

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

her administration literally didn't even bother to secure the equal rights amendment; which would have nullified much of project 2025.

also a huge majority of project 2025 has been enacted since 1981.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If you cannot accept that LESS people would have suffered if the dems won, I cannot help ya.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Morons cannot be helped unfortunately

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

saying this makes it clear that you value american comfort over a genocide.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Saying that makes it clear you have no intention of having a good faith, nuanced discussion of politics.

Get blocked.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

welcome to club. lol

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Except for the fact that we have every evidence that Trump is worse for everyone including gazans, you fucking dolt

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When did Democrats have a supermajority in both the House and the Senate?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Do you ever wonder why it takes a single parliamentarian or congressman to derail all Democratic state welfare initiatives like national healthcare while the Republicans steamrolled over dozens of Republicans and parliamentarians who tried to stop this most recent bill?

If you ever bother to educate yourself, you'll come to understand that the democrats had the option of making the filibuster super majority proof when Biden was the president and Democrats controlled both houses of Congress, but chose not to even when their own bill was in jeopardy.

Please wake up.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They believe that by attacking perceived woes (immigration, social safety nets, women's rights, and the education system) that all will magivally become better for the average citizen.

They're addicted to the fallacy of the American Dreamβ„’ to the point that they don't see the larger picture, and again the oligarchy strengten its grip on a divided population, consequences be damned.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

I would ask them why they’re happy, not us.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

They run on spite. Just doing something which the other side hates is enough to make them happy.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

"me team win, libs ownt"

If you are a white straight conservative small business owner you are very happy. If you make more than $200k you probably much pay less than 10% tax after new deductibles.

[–] graymess@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

Seriously, I think the vast majority of Trump voters could not tell you one thing about the bill. Maybe the no taxes on tips thing. It does not matter to them. Not thinking is a perk of MAGA.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago

Well, I live in Russia, but I've read there were changes about taxes calculation logic for people of low enough income too. Maybe they are smiling about that?

It's still funny how the supposed problem of US state debt going is apparently not a problem when it's your side inflating it beyond the year 1946 record against GDP. Or so they say.

BTW, when people say that US state debt is being misinterpreted and it's not a problem, - basically any country's state debt is, until it isn't. That would work like, well, loss of trust into US ability to support the debt, which means loss of the value of USD, which together may form a positive feedback loop. Not hard to see that if such thing were to happen, you'd have rapid inflation and probably default.

(Also maybe that talk about bringing production back to USA, Musk's political ideas and funding for military structures, all that stuff, are being done in preparation for the inevitable, - it's technically possible to avoid it, but politically may not be, cause both main sides just promise more spending to own the other side. Because their plans that don't make sense now look kinda better in a hypothetical scenario of post-default USA. It'll still have enormous human capital, and its economic situation would allow to use that for building industries anew.)

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