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[–] Huhni@lemmy.world 122 points 1 year ago (35 children)

That wouldn't have happened if the 1-year-old had a gun 🤔

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Or if the family lived almost anywhere else in the world.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (13 children)

lock the parents up and get that kid some lifelong counseling.

as a gun owner... I find not locking up your weapons abhorrent.

[–] HolyDiver@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

as a non American I find owning guns abhorrent but to each their own

[–] Wolf@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As a hunter I own quite a few, but guess what? They are all fucking locked up in a safe and I don’t have any children, just my wife and I. How anyone could have children and think it’s ok to leave a firearm around is asinine.

[–] stringere@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I took away my son's bb and pellet guns because I caught him waving his rifle around like a toy.

"But it wasn't loaded!"

"Then you obviously forgot or ignored the very first thing I taught you."

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

As an Italian surrounded by guns who has them and hates them but might need to ruin my life by defending myself against a crazed neighbor... They're abhorrent. There's no good that comes from a gun.

[–] Iteria@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

There are several reasons go own a gun in the US. Should we have as many as we do? Absolutely not. But we have a lot of wild and dangerous animals and you don't have to get far from a city center to encounter them. We also have several invasive species we keep down via strategic hunting. Feral pigs being one of them. They're very dangerous and near impossible to get rid of once they're there.

The US could definitely do with at least having the Canadian system where guns are highly tracked by the government (and they should be), but until i don't see coyotes and random bullshit like that wandering around my suburban area, I still guy why you'd want one. I say this as someone who had never owned a gun, nor wants to own one for various reasons.

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[–] NickDangerThirdEye@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Agreed, as terrible a thing as it is to happen to a parent it needs to be punished when this occurs. Someone was obviously negligent with a gun around a child. If it was put away properly this wouldn't have happened.

[–] sci@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

But how can i enjoy my right to bear arms if my weapons are locked up

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

To the rest of the world, this would be an exceedingly rare headline.

For Americans, it is just any other Tuesday.

[–] HandOfDoom@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

American solution: put the 3yo in prison for forced labour and arm all 1 year olds so they can defend themselves.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gun manufacturers: heavy breathing

[–] sadbehr@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 year ago

Use the 3 year olds in prison to make the guns for the 1 year olds to arm themselves! Fuckin bang two for one.

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[–] mightysashiman@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

the 2 common culprits in all these horrible stories are: 1) human stupidity 2) gun proliferation. solving the first would require eugenism. solving the second is a big american no-no. So don’t call it horrible, just live with it. It’s just a normal by-product of american culture.

[–] Ichi_matsu@ttrpg.network 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no, so we’re back to square one.

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[–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

Why would the gun be loaded? At the very least the gun and the ammo should be separated.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

You are 100% correct but that loops is back to #1.

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[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

It's not immediately clear if any parents were in the home at the time of the shooting.

I guess it tracks that if they left a toddler and a baby in the house alone, they'd also be irresponsible enough to leave a weapon just sitting out unsecured and loaded. What a tragedy.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago

The only way to stop a bad baby with a gun is a good baby with a gun.

[–] sadbehr@lemmy.nz 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sending yet more thoughts and prayers /s.

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[–] Tetra@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Clearly we need to arm 1 year olds so they can defend themselves

[–] BlackMark3tBaby@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 year ago

"As of July 12, there have been at least 217 unintentional shootings by children, which have resulted in 76 deaths and 149 injuries so far in 2023, according to a count by the gun control nonprofit Everytown for Gun Safety"

[–] MasterObee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Trigger locks are not hard to get and are inexpensive.

I'm iffy on more gun control, but if there is something I'd want to do, it'd be requiring businesses to provide a trigger lock with each sale.

[–] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Reputable gun shops provide them free of charge w/ every sale.

/gun collector

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The average American is too dumb to own guns and I say this from a household with several guns. Seriously would rather not have them if that means idiots and the mentally unstable don't either.

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...it’d be requiring businesses to provide a trigger lock with each sale.

Pretty much is in the State of California. This is yet another instance of someone not following the basic god damned rules of firearm safety.

You can only do so much to encourage gun safety, but when you get to this point I think it's only fitting to charge the gun owner with a felony and forbid them from ever owning a firearm again.

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