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[–] judgyweevil@feddit.it 63 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They need public transport but they are too proud to admit it

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They want to monetize public transport without paying for building any new infrastructure.

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But you see, this is a small capacity, on demand monorail "pod" that serve the purpose of antisocial that is unwilling to share a public transport like the rest of the peasant do.

[–] Pechente@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s exactly why tech bro solutions always have pods. Tells you a lot about their world views. Everyone outside their close social bubble is disgusting to them and needs to be separated from them.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

But they’re not wrong. Look how many people use Uber instead of calling a cab. Look how many use Doordash instead of calling to order from a restaurant. Look how many use self checkout instead of going through an ordinary cashier lane.

People don’t want to interact with each other anymore. They don’t want to make phone calls with strangers. They don’t want to deal with strangers in person. They just want to push a button and get whatever it is that they want.

I think this is some kind of mass stress response to the alienation we all feel from living in modern cities. Of being sequestered into suburbs and having our lives regimented into school/work schedules. We’ve lost the sense of community we had from when we used to live in villages and walk around to get places and we knew everyone around us.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Any close reading of the subject of small villages shows they were/are hotbeds of murder

[–] anyhow2503@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

By "close reading" you mean Agatha Christie novels? No seriously, where did you get that from?

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Yes, and I was also humorously referring to the entire murder-in-a-small-town genre, including Midsummer, Cabot Cove, Shetland, and innumerable villages and small towns in.... Wales, South Africa, Australia, France, Norway, all over the rural US, in both present and past eras.

The insularity being a contributor to motives for murder, between land disputes, scandalous secrets being hidden until they fester, and people who don't have the option or opportunity to get away...

I wasn't referring to the horror/slasher genre, but some of those fit as well.

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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  1. socially speaking, how is uber any different from a taxi? I'm not expected to share either of them with other passengers and both include a driver.

  2. doordash offers delivery for many restaurants that dont have their own in house delivery, and again i don't see much of a difference socially speaking either way.

  3. i find most people only use the self check out when it is actually faster, if the line is shorter i frequently see people prefer a cashier. I use the cashier the vast majority of the time as i tend to get items with expiring soon discounts that need employee confirmation anyway. I often see people with a similar amount of grocceries beat me time wise by using the check out.

Overall i don't think you are wrong and we are becoming less social with strangers, i just think some of the examples you used aren't great.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Uber is different because you use an app instead of calling a person on the phone to order a cab. Furthermore, with an Uber you don’t even have to talk to the driver because they already know your destination.

DoorDash is similar: you use an app instead of placing an order over the phone. This is meaningful enough that many people switched to it even when their favourite restaurant already had delivery because they didn’t want to talk to someone on the phone.

[–] knexcar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

That seems more an issue of convenience rather than a desire to not interact with people. Being able to order a ride or food in a few clicks and see the price and availability immediately beats having to find the phone number, hope they’re available, ask all those individual questions (or don’t and hope it’s not too far away), or worse, repeat all that for another restaurant/taxi company because the first is too busy.

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[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure this is just a way of utilizing abandoned rail lines that aren't fit for full size trains.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Can they just invent fucking human bubbles and we can adapt the logical already existent forms of public transport instead

[–] sam@piefed.ca 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We have a lot of abandoned rail here in Canada. I've often thought about making a very simple low-speed "rail chair with wheels" that I can put in my backpack and mess around with for fun. Hooking up to old rails is cool, but not as cool as having trains. Bring back trains!

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Its illegal to be on or near railroad tracks though.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Only if you get caught ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doesn't this usually only apply to active ones rather than abandoned track?

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Not always but yeah, and no one really cares.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can see this working in places where there's a single abandoned line and no budget to recover it. I've seen plenty of these in SE Asia. A small government investment (skip all the app bullshit etc) could make these work to inter connect small villages that otherwise would waste hours on shitty poorly maintained roads. If it can be made low-tech, I can see this being useful.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

and unsurprisingly it's a german project, a country which is absolutely fucking covered in rural lines that are just rusting away

like, holy shit, can we stop branding everything that isn't a bog-standard train as "tech bro gadgetbahn"? this thing very explicitly has a specific problem it's trying to solve.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Trains are expensive, high-capacity vehicles.

If these small cheap vehicles can repurpose tracks in low demand areas, what's so bad about it?

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago

exactly, i'm catiously optimistic because if this works it could be kinda revolutionary, if rural germans can be convinced to use some form of public transport that's a huge step towards weaning that hideously car-brained nation off the deathmobiles.

and the big thing with these is that they just run on normal tracks, so you can just.. start running normal trains once you see that ridership with the monocabs is reaching sufficient numbers!

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[–] antimidas@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Germans had a working solution to this for decades, but apparently gave up on it for some reason (not competitive with road traffic is probably the correct one)

It was called a railbus and they were once quite prevalent on European branch lines. Finland had and Sweden loads as well, in rural areas, until someone decided that a normal bus is better for some reason.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the problem is that you still need a driver, so frequency is going to be limited, which makes the service barely usable. Lack of places for vehicles to pass also limits possible frequency on these rural lines.

the idea behind monocab is that you can just throw more vehicles at the problem, so people can either just order a cab or you can have them constantly circulating like a very strange merry-go-round.

Railbuses are still good, but they made a lot more sense in the past. These days people have very very little tolerance for waiting.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

If that pod can be automated, the rail bus can be automated.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

See the whole video. Adam is using a clickbait title but the problem is actually a local Dutch government not the bros themselves, and the solution is a tram train.

[–] SubjectOven@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If these dudes want to make a bunch of money just make the high speed trains and rail system we need in America. Everyone will buy tickets. You will be a literal train baron. I don't get these half assed ideas. Just do the damn thing.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

The are raising venture capital for whizzbang ideas rather than products that exist and require real planning, logistics, and engineering to bring to market in a cost effective way that will only generate enough profits to entice stable long-term investors with actual expectations. Like Tesla AI cabs rather than city bus/metro systems that do actual heavy-lifting to reduce traffic

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 12 points 1 week ago

Aside from it being built by tech bros, i actually like this. It could serve a purpose similar to public transport like car sharing (not carpooling) and rental bikes. This would be far from as efficient as regular trains or street cars, but those modes of transports need volume. As soon the population that uses the rail decreases to a point it becomes to expensive to run a train every one or two hours, often the expensive physical infrastructure remains while the service disappears. In those cases i could totally see this being a better option than heavily subsidising or totally removing trains on that section of rail. But to be honest, I can't imagine there are enough of those places on earth carry the costs to develop this tech, also because these cars are only the best fit if the abandoned line is a single track line.

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey Groesbeek! Stelletje benzineverslaafde boomers! Zo, nu ik jullie aandacht heb, een oplossing, gezien jullie er geen zin in hebben dat er een grote zware spoorlijn dwars door je dorp gaat. Dus hier het alternatief:

Een tram.

Jullie hoeven een minder opzichtige halte te bouwen EN lichtere infra die veel beter bij de "Franse flair" van jullie straatbeeld past, terwijl de buren bij Nijmegen en Kleve hun spoorverbinding weer hebben. Iedereen blij.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Definitely the best solution.

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago

Great, lets waste a few million euros on yet another "Dahir Insaat" style pod based Gadgetbahn. I can't wait to stand in traffic in my pod because a lot of people want to exit at the same station.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The tram train idea is the best one.

https://youtu.be/r5M7Oq1PCz4 This one of his is funnier and makes better points.

Fuvk it; still better than cars. The physics alone are an improvement.

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