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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's good that Obama isn't on the Epstein list.

But a woman's value isn't based on how many people have seen her body.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 10 points 6 hours ago

For Republicans, it is.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 130 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Maybe your wife's choice of career has fuck all to do with how good of a person you are. Since she's not property and you don't control her, yeah?

[–] HuntressHimbo@lemmy.zip 103 points 18 hours ago (16 children)

Who is downvoting this? Melania is a monster, but doing nude modeling has 0 to do with it. Attacking Trump through that is really gross. He has plenty of gross skeletons to go for, and Melania has actually objectionable actions, this meme is trash.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 points 9 hours ago

she met trump on one of epsteins meet and greet parties.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 36 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Nude modeling is morally neutral.

Hell, participating in ethically made hardcore porn is morally neutral.

Judging a woman for either is misogynistic. Judging that woman’s partner for her choices is even more misogynistic.

[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Except if a wife sticks with her husband through his terrible choices., judging her is not misogynistic at all. Isn’t this the same crowd that loves to say if you’re sitting at a table with nazis, you’re no better than a nazi?

[–] EvilCartyen@feddit.dk 14 points 9 hours ago

Judging her for that is fine, not for her nude modeling.

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 56 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, shaming her for nude photos is pretty fucking weak and, imo, just detracts from any point you're trying to make

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 33 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Its even worse, because they're shaming him for her nude photos.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yea. The misogynistic rhetoric really ruins this post.

[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

True. Pointing out a double standard has value, but they picked something imaginary instead of all the other criticisms that were directed at Obama and not Trump. Occupy Democrats has been consistently pretty crap tbh. Lots of twisted facts even if the spirit is in the right place.

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[–] ImWaitingForRetcons@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think it’s more about the evangelical base and their extreme cope than necessarily about Melania, though being hypocritical to attack your out group is nothing new.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Yes, for me it's the hypocrisy of the base. Imagine if Michelle or Hillary had been listed on that website Melania was on and had their pictures circulating. Imagine if those families had decorated the White House with some gaudy shit. Like Obama said, "imagine if I had done any of that". The commenters are missing the point.

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[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 54 points 18 hours ago

a lil early for anyone to be gloating about not being on a list that doesn't not exist any more on Tuesdays.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 48 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Once again I ask you not to glorify war criminals.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Eat My Ass, Obama was the best President since Jimmy Carter.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 5 points 6 hours ago

True. And it's fucking embarrassing.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That's not exactly a high bar, and arguably not even true.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 6 hours ago

I'd certainly argue that Obama caused immeasurable damage to America through the promises he reneged on and the things he didn't do. He'd have been a fine president in saner times, but as America's last shot at stopping fascism at the ballot box he was wholly inadequate.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No rebuttal for the war criminal thing, I see.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

In the land of the blind, the one eyed is king...

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe that's true, but even so that's no excuse to glorify him. Obama was a step towards, not away from, fascism, and a decisive one at that.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Glorifying maybe is a strong word, but assuming war crimes as a constant of American history basically, we can appreciate the good things he did, specially in the context of bush before him and trump after him. Yes, it's praising someone for not shitting his pants, but we are at that level unfortunately.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, Obama did shit his pants, hard. He did do some good things, but he failed the test given to him by history same as Biden by not ending the War on Terror after the death of Bin Laden. America was going to have to reckon with the rot at the heart of its society sooner or later, but that rot was rapidly metastatizing fast through the War on Terror, and Obama had a golden opportunity to stop that but he didn't. Compared to this one gigantic failure, all his successes (and most of his other failures) are footnotes. I view him the same as Biden: Someone who would've been a good or good-ish president in saner times, but who was woefully inadequate for the hour. The consequences of his failure weren't as immediate as Biden's so it's harder to notice, but Obama shitting his pants is why we're living through Trump 2 right now.

Youre right in that war crimes are a constant in american history, but America desperately needed Obama to be the peace president he'd said he'd be.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

Ok, so let me appreciate him for shitting his pants less than the guys before and after him. Yes, he didn't stop it, arguably accelerated a bit, but the other guys where pedal to the metal while punching you in the face. Obamacare was bad, but it was better than injecting bleach. Droning weddings was bad, but better than ethnic cleansing. Not prosecuting Cheney was bad, but better than selling pardons for 2M a pop. You get the idea.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I bet you were a genocide Joe voter.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 5 hours ago

Well I'm not American so voting for anyone would've been a pretty egregious case of election fraud, but why so?

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 33 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I say this as someone who doesn't have Obamna Derangement Syndrome: this post is painful boomer slop.

[–] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Unlike Dump I actually would want to see Bama's wife naked.

Not really a strong conviction here, but she seems like she's not all plastic yet. A mind up there, too... Always good in my list

Also, she at least looks like someone who's actually had an orgasm in the past 40 years or so.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

sure but that’s not the metric by which we measure goodness, considering. As in, memery aside, he should not be speaking as if he’s not a monster as well. 😂

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Obama was a great president.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 7 hours ago

Nope. He was pretty much a failure. He also sold out on day one, and collected millions in "speaking fees" from Wall Street firms within days of leaving office. If Obama had been a great president, Trump wouldn't have been the next president.

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