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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis defended his call to ban pro-Palestinian groups from Florida state colleges Sunday, after one of his Republican presidential primary opponents, Vivek Ramaswamy, slammed the demand as “a shameful political ploy.”

“It’s unconstitutional. It’s utter hypocrisy for someone who railed against left-wing cancel culture,” Ramaswamy posted on X (formerly Twitter) Thursday, alleging that it violates students’ right to free speech.

DeSantis held firm Sunday.

“This is not cancel culture. This group, they themselves said, in the aftermath of the Hamas attack, that they don’t just stand in solidarity that they are part of this Hamas movement,” DeSantis said during an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

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[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 167 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's only cancel culture when it happens to fascists.

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

To be fair he's right. It's not cancel culture. It's institutional racism.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 127 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

desantis didn't say anything when literal nazis were hanging out with desantis flags in front of disney world so really i don't wanna hear from him on this.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He retweeted a DeSantis promotional video a fan made, which featured Nazi imagery.

[–] tjhart85@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FYI -- The "fan" was later found to be on staff, unless we're thinking of different events, which, sadly is always possible!

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Black sun in the background and all kinds of memes knit into the video

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[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 105 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

These are the eggshell stickers I should be seeing at gas pumps.

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The party of small government everyone!

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Came here to say this.

Not that fascists care at all that others point out their hypocrisy. They don't hold themselves to any standards, so if they are hypocrites, it simply does not matter.

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a friend who was radicalized during the pandemic by LoTT's original account, and he doesn't seem to care about the fact he likes yuri and loli stuff, all while calling LGBTQ+ people "pedophiles". He just responds with the gigachad meme and a "who cares". (Ironically he does think of male-on-male shota as pedophilic, likely he just calls sex acts he doesn't like as such.)

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Had to look some of those terms up (ETA: and, uh, yuck). Still don't know what "LoTT" is?

But yeah, the right goes ALL IN on hypocrisy when it comes to their Qtarded nonsense. They don't care about kids being trafficked, at all, they just want to smear others with terms they know most will find revolting.

Even if Gaetz was caught, on video, balls deep in someone underage, they'd still support him. How many of theirs have these problems, besides Groomer Gaetz? Donnie himself of course, even talking about his own daughter FFS. Then there is Hastert. And Roy Moore.

[–] Sparlock@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Oh right, I forgot about that weird woman.

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[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cancel culture, no. Blatant violation of the first amendment? Probably.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Also when it comes to the radicalized right wing and their rhetoric about Palestinians, anyone else reminded of the way the right would talk about South Africa?

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hate this guy. Fuck Israel.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (41 children)

Hate this absolute ghoul as well. Fuck Hamas.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"This group, they themselves said, in the aftermath of the [shooting], that they don’t just stand in solidarity that they are part of this Christian nationalist movement." Sound familiar?

But do go off about how it's not what you called "cancel culture."

Edit: To be clear, I'm aware that cancel culture is just "moderation" rebranded to scare right wing idiots into a tribal mindset.

[–] Saprophyte@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's cancel culture when it happens to them. When they do it, it's called boycotting.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Except that's not really how boycotting works when they do dumb shit like buy shoes just to set them on fire.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, cancel culture is real. They are the primary ones that wield it. They simply call being held responsible, cancel culture in an effort to distract everyone from that fact.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Very true. Just like they are the biggest proponents of political correctness. The actual kind, not the basic human decency they have rebranded as "political correctness". Just see how they behave if someone does not do the right thing around a piece of cloth (flag) or when someone violates expected rituals done when a certain song is played (anthem) at a....checks notes....sportsball game.

Same thing for their accusations of others being emotional, being a snowflake, engaging in culture wars and so on.

It's always projection with them.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Cancel culture? That's not what it means. This is censorship culture.

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[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I'm wondering how many of the current commentors actually read the article, lol. Firstly. The title is wrong as he's only challenging ONE group. Students for Justice in Palestine, so that's click bait.

DeSantis is making a claim that the group he's basing this on has claimed solidarity with Hamas, a terrorist organization. Like, should we be letting pro Hamas people just float around collage campuses?

Now, that's what we should be looking at. We should be asking if this is just a racist political stunt. If you look up Students for Justice in Palestine, you'll see articles claiming they have put out messages that are anti Semitic and pro hamas in nature. The chapter at this Florida school has apparently made it abundantly clear they are pro hamas. Professors and pro Jewish groups have written the management at the school and have been writing their representatives to address this issue.

Can you chuds fucking read and think for yourself? Like, yeah I hate DeSantis as much as the next guy but if you just shovel this biased political shit into your brain without a second thought you're not better than any republican who posts hurrr durrr liberals on Facebook.

If you don't take the time to actually look passed the headline, then you have no idea if this is a dickwad with too much power or if this is something else entirely. You don't know if this is a targeted racist effort against students or if these are pro hamas students openly supporting (and potentially financially supporting) Hamas

And just to add, you can be against this decision, saying it's not the government's duty to handle religious and cultural affiliations of students. But at least actually know why you'd be against it, ffs

Edit: further, he's not banning them, he's only deactivating their official status, which means they cannot access school funds or materials for their purposes. They are still free to gather as any group has a right to.

[–] Zippit@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is hypocrisy. If you allow actual Nazi's to walk around with swastikas in public...well this is the same.

That's a very valid argument, yeah

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not up to the government to decide that. That's the whole point of the first amendment.

This is assuming they don't move past words.

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)
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[–] ToAllPointsWest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When did they say this? Also when his ass was quiet when literal Nazis paraded around, he can stay quiet now

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Bruh……..

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone should tell DeSADIST that no matter how much he punches down on marginalized groups, he just doesn't have the hateful branding that little d does, and never will. At least little d has a weird kind of charisma that appeals to a certain type of person. DeSADIST just doesn't have it, no matter how many elevator cowboy boots or white go-go boots he hobbles around in.

As stupid as it is, humans are still selecting their leaders by height, which is bad news for ronnie. Little d lies about his height (and weight), but he's probably around 6 feet.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm personally surprised Ramaswamy of all folks is the one bashing it for being unconstitutional

You'd think he'd shrink from that line of attack considering his flagship policy is to throw one of the most recent amendments in the fucking trash.

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