Yeah, no one's buying this. These are sadistic thugs who've had ample opportunity to learn the history of Hitler's brown shirts and went ahead and signed on the dotted line anyhow.
THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
funnily enough the actual Nazi Gestapo also suffered the same problem. It was hard to find people who actually wanted to do this and they had to abstract the logistics of exterminations to stop the SS/SD from topping themselves all the time
These gestapo mother fuckers weren’t “forced” to do anything. They applied, interviewed and accepted their positions. And when this administration asked them to do things they weren’t comfortable with, they just fucking did it anyway. No sympathy for these fucks. I hope they can’t sleep at night for the rest of their lives because that’ll still be a fraction of the emotional trauma they’ve inflicted on countless nonviolent immigrants.
No one's forcing them to do anything. They could refuse, change departments, get another job, etc.
Maybe don't work for Team Evil then.
"Forced"? Last I checked they weren't under contract like soldiers so why can't they just walk away from the job?
Excuse-me-but-they-are-just-following-orders'25.
So don't.
If you signed up to stop crime, do that and only that. And I don't mean "the crime of being here."
If you're conducting a legal action with a judicial warrant to detain an actual dangerous criminal, focus everything on getting that one guy.
Anyone else who happens to be in the neighborhood... isn't.
If you're sent to raid a business/farm that's illegally exploiting undocumented immigrants, arrest the exploiter, not the workers.
That goes double if you got a tip about the business, because it's highly likely the owners themselves sent it in order to quash discontent or unionization.
Have no power to make those decisions? Run slowly, grab loosely, pull your punches and aim any chemicals or less-lethal projectiles wide of any humans. And keep top of mind that they are HUMANS, despite what your reptilian overlords may tell you.
Don't quit, make them fire you for sabotaging the cruelty.
"Some ICE staff had already jumped ship over Trump’s mass deportation policy, including 33-year-old Adam Boyd, a form(er) sic. ICE attorney who left the agency in June. Boyd told Miroff he ultimately made a “moral decision” in deciding to leave the agency."
I'm torn. On the one hand, "Good!". OTOH this means it leaves the ones WITHOUT morals are still there and working.
His claim he left due to his morals is laughable; in order to become a cop or work in that system, one cannot have morals to begin with. There are no moral cops.
The terrifying thing about this kind of problem is that they do have morals, but they've been warped. They're surrounded by systems that tell them that what they do is good, necessary, or at least morally justified. That warp their judgement and morals, protecting and encouraging their part in heinous acts. All the while their moral judgements see themselves as the good guys, and that's the worst part.
If somebody sees a conflict between their personal morals, and the actions of themselves the system around them, good on them for refusing to participate anymore.
He's a lawyer
or work in that system
Lawyers, cops, the firm that delivers apples to the camps, all are part of this nazi machine of horseshit.
Feeling this so much in my own job!
For whatever reason, I opened this article thinking it was from the Onion, or similar joke site.
I didn't realize it wasn't until I got to the end.
We say things like "There's even a timeline in which Hitler's art career takes off"...
Every other timeline uses ours for that example.
Aw, those poor little Nazis. Here, I've got a cozy little fire pit for you to warm your bones.
Cry harder nazis
They should all quit then and get jobs doing something that isn't evil.
Or become depressed alcoholics and put a bullet in their brains. Either or.
Imagine the morale of the Gardner, damn.
This kinda reminds me of Romans 13, a passage in the bible used to excuse nazi soldiers at one point