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[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

But AEW and WWE are entertaining...there's nothing really entertaining in current politics or media.

[–] HerrVorragend@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, I remember those times. People did NOT keep watching, as I recall it.

Most felt betrayed and stupid and would never talk about it again.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Did Americans actually think they were for real? I feel like folks everywhere else understood it but evidently enjoyed the entertaining acrobatics! I guess voting for a rich reality TV star charlatan was definitely in the cards for the US, lol, they can't tell reality from fiction anyway!

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

if you ever take a glance at the IWC on twitter (Internet Wrestling Community - yes I do watch pro wrestling) you'll find that most still think it's real.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 6 points 2 hours ago

I 100% believed it was real. But then i turned 10 or so and me and my friends were wondering how this real man called the undertaker just got resurrected

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Except I can't be deported when shit goes sideways in wrestling. Politics affects you even if you don't care or try to ignore it. Not so much with wrestling.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 2 points 2 hours ago

Deported straight out of the ring! That's gotta hurt!

Well, with the mcmahon's in trumps inner circle maybe this could change?

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Politics is show-business for ugly people.

Electoral ones, yeah.

[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 45 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I mean, with wrestling that's the whole point.

You watch wrestling for the spectacle, the acrobatics, the drama. It's literally entertainment, people don't go to the theatre and feel disappointed because "it was scripted". Besides, none of the stunts they pull are "fake". They risk their body integrity and sometimes even their lives for entertainment.

With politics, yeah, that's fucked up

[–] Tonuka@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Fascism is aesthetics as politics

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Penn and Teller do a bit with a nail gun where Penn does a monologue about how they are magicians so there is obviously a trick, and that's the point - they want the audience to come along and enjoy the show and watch them do things that seem dangerous, while knowing that even if something goes wrong they aren't going to be complicit in someone getting hurt or killed by encouraging them to take those risks.

Idk, not really relevant to what you said, but I think about that a lot

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 8 hours ago

Reality TV and Wrestling are there to make people accept scripted realities. The whole point of wrestling is to fuck up politics.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 72 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Slight difference. When Trish Stratus Betrayed Chris Jericho, it didn't cause me to lose health insurance.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago

But it did make me lose my mind as a kid. Fuck Christian.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Mickey7@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

he's obviously talking about the russia, russia, hoax

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

this meme makes no sense but everyone is gonna laugh at me for arguing with it

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

No it's just not being able to articulate or communicate your suffering

If ignorance is bliss, why the shit do we keep getting fascism?

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Americans were culturally primed to nonchalantly accept the charade of their democratic processes.*

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

Pressured to not throw away their vote maybe.

[–] trublu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Kayfabe Presidency is a fucking fantastic punk band name.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I’ve got five words for you: Punk. Rock. Pro. Wrestling. Musical.

[–] jjmoldy@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

When will the "erm, don't you know wrestling is fake" people get it through their damn heads that it's not fake it's fictional! You don't go up to someone watching a TV drama and start lecturing them about how it's not real, do you???

[–] Mickey7@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

It's the same as watching a news source that for years swears to you that something is true and then quietly comes back and tells you that in fact it was not true. There is a long list of mainstream media "sorry we were only joking" incidents over the years. Yet people continue to watch never questioning whether or not they are being lied to .

I think it's either Americans who feel angry and betrayed because they actually thought Rey Mysterio was getting choked by Kane, and the other group of Americans who, because they had more than two working brain cells, understood it was just TV but is still annoyed by the first group's antics.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago
[–] m3t00@piefed.world 2 points 14 hours ago

When people talk in 'all-star-wrestling' terminology, I stop listening. politics/news same.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Never has this meme held such relevance.

[–] don@lemmy.ca 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

When you’re invested in the kayfabe to such an extent that it completely defines the nature of your very identity and existence, the lie is made real, and the odds of you being successfully extracted and deprogrammed go ever distant with each passing moment.

[–] Mickey7@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Wonder how many people remember the decade of the real cults. They would prey on young adults and basically turn them into slaves to support the "dear leader" of the group. And once indoctrinated, no one including their close friends and family could ever convince them that they were being used by charlatans. The only way to free them was to actually hire a "deprogrammer" which was a guy who knew how to finally show them reality. We have too much of the same charlatans today and those who promote them. And the result is zombie like behavior where even if something is good for you personally you reject it because that's what the cult tells you to do.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 16 hours ago

And then other get so disgusted by this that they say "oh I hate politics, don't make this political" and disengage, demobilize And you end up with most of the population either kayfabe-dazzle of full demobilized and these two groups weigh more than anyone else in the raw number of voting bodies so that anyone trying to "do a democracy" is completely lost in the noise.

And that's how democracy dies, or rather how it died sometime in the time of Nixon and isn't going to undie, it's undead democracy, we have a "zombie democracy", it's still twitching, it still says

"Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bullshit,’ hook, line, and sinker. They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years, Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support any more!"

And then it says

"Ouf! Ouch! Owie! My bone spurs are giving me veinous insufficiency, I need a little time out"

And just in time for Iron Man to come out and save the day with his "America Party"

Funny how that works out.

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I've been there since Clinton ruined Arsenio. Y'all have some reality checking to do.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 3 points 18 hours ago

We are there.

[–] Nay@feddit.nl 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If we believe it's fake then it is. The only way it would be real would be if more people would treat it as such.

[–] Mickey7@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

The sad thing is that a percentage of people continue to believe nonsense as if they were part of a religion. That group is thankfully dwindling in numbers and more and more people are just tired of being lied to.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago

3rd order simulation

Anyone following this account's posts shouldn't be surprised to see these kind of posts mixed in especially with Trump's Epstein connections being at the forefront of American's minds right now.