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Also anyone can tell me the difference in performance between the white one and the blue one??

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[–] Cotillion189@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have Evo plus. Works fine.

[–] Niithed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Same. No issues so far.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Great, ty. 👍

[–] Stampela@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Select is the one exclusive for Amazon, my understanding is that it’s meant to help with counterfeit ones, as only Amazon has them. Very good cards either way.

Not sure how it compares price wise right now, but look at the Amazon basics ones too: they’re made by the same company that bought Lexar and makes the emmc inside the 64gb Deck. Mine has been going strong for about a year now. Speed wise they’re essentially the same: the standard used in the Deck tops out at 104 megabytes per second, so any claims of extra speed are just marketing.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

BTW is normal that the free space on the 64 Steam Deck is actually 40-something gb?? I mean 20gb of OS?

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] NoXPhasma@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Additionally, to what was already said, the size of storage is giving in Decimal (1000B based) while after formatting it is often shown in Binary (1024B based), which makes the storage look smaller, which it isn't.

And the most of the storage is coming from software stored in your home, not the OS itself. The OS only occupies around 3.3GB on the 5GB root partition:

/dev/nvme0n1p4  5.0G  3.3G  1.5G  69% /
/dev/nvme0n1p6  230M   41M  173M  19% /var
/dev/nvme0n1p8  466G  115G  351G  25% /home
[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It should be noted that the way you listed the partitions misses the dual (A/B) install method that the deck uses. There are 2 identical size partitions for root, var, and EFI. When an update occurs. The system installs the new update on the inactive set of partitions and then tells the UEFI to use the other set on the next boot. That doesn't matter too much for 512GB models like your's, but the extra ~5.5GB for the redundant partition layout can be significant for 64GB models.

[–] NoXPhasma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've used df -h and that showed only this three partitions. I've only skipped the tmpfs mounts.

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The df command only shows mounted devices and filesystems. You can use lsblk to show all block devices and their partitions. To format it more nicely to show the labels for each partition, you can use these options: lsblk -o name,mountpoint,partlabel,size.

This is the output from my deck without the microsd card:

deck@steamdeck ~> lsblk -o name,mountpoint,partlabel,size
NAME        MOUNT PARTLABEL   SIZE
nvme0n1                     476.9G
├─nvme0n1p1       esp          64M
├─nvme0n1p2       efi-A        32M
├─nvme0n1p3       efi-B        32M
├─nvme0n1p4 /     rootfs-A      5G
├─nvme0n1p5       rootfs-B      5G
├─nvme0n1p6 /var  var-A       256M
├─nvme0n1p7       var-B       256M
└─nvme0n1p8 /home home      466.3G

Its on the low side but still within reason. Its not just an OS, it's an OS, a full steam install, a web browser( actually 2 of them because steam also packs an embedded browser), a desktop environment, HD animations, HD wallpapers (several of them) and it adds up quick.

[–] Stampela@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

Yep. The os isn’t tiny, plus there’s all sorts of extra stuff. For example 1gb is gone on every Deck because that’s reserved for swap… and then shader cache sneaks in and depending on the game you might run out of space in no time.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Just buy an nvme SSD, the one in the deck is really easy to replace (if you have a good screwdriver, like in the ifixit kit/ other phone repair kits)

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't even know why they have a 64GB version.

This is the one I use. I believe you want to look for the "A2" SD card. No issues with speed or reliability yet. I play ges like Elden Ring and RDR2.

https://a.co/d/7pFQpEB

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Loss leader to increase market share most likely, since Valve loses money on the 64gb model

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I suppose that makes sense.

[–] mhz@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Not everyone is playin triple A titles, for someone like me who prefer old or/and 2.5D games (which are usually under 10Gib), the 64gb variant would be mostly fine.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Shader cache takes a big chunk of the available space

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

IIRC, it was 20GB of OS at launch, but they shrunk it. Now it's a little over 10GB.

[–] olicvb@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Came here to advise running F3 to test the sd card, and make sure it's legit.

Turns out the Steam Deck does it on it's own when you use the steam UI formatter, Beautiful

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That’s awesome that the Steam Deck does a check like that.

[–] NoXPhasma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They are both exactly the same, Select is just a rebrand of Amazon. Don't buy Select unless it is cheaper. And yes they work fine, have the Evo Plus 512.

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why shouldn't they buy the select? Isn't the whole purpose of it being exclusive to prevent people from getting fake cards?

[–] threegnomes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

samsung has a tool that can verify the legitimacy of cards. if it's counterfeit send it back

[–] NoXPhasma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Amazon is unable to make sure you got no fake Plus if they are the seller, how in the world would they make sure the Select is no fake?

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Amazon is the only seller of the Select cards. For the Plus, anyone can be a seller, so there could be fakes being sold as well. If the Plus is being sold directly by Amazon, then yes, it should be a legit card and there should be no difference.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s a bummer that the situation is essentially a tax that guarantees not being hassled by counterfeit goods.

“Well, I have two options. Here, this one here that’s white. And here’s another one that’s not white.”

“What’s the difference?”

“Well, this one I guarantee is what it appears to be.”

“And the other one?”

“Well, that one is probally what it appears to be. But how can I know? I’m just the one selling it to you.”

“That seems fucked up.”

“Please understand that we take counterfeit goods very seriously.”

“Right….”

[–] mhz@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Would that apply for "sold and shipped by amazon" items?

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

I have had good luck with these. One has been in my Deck for 6+ months, with about 1/2 my library on it. Load speeds etc. have been decent.

[–] MuThyme@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have the second one on that list, and while I've got an ROG ally rather than a steam deck, I can tell you it performs quite well. I'm pretty sure these are often recommended for the deck for all the same reasons.

Load times are a little slower for bigger games, but that's usually just when starting the game up.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

I've got 3 of the 512GB Evo Plus ones on rotation in the Deck, for my Steam library/game-hoarding-addiction.

I got one of the first batch of UK Steam Decks, and have been running those SD cards since whenever that was. No issues so far.