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Former head of NASA’s climate group issues dire warning on warming (arstechnica.com)

submitted 11 months ago by laverabe@lemmy.world to c/science@lemmy.world

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[+] FrigidAphelion@lemm.ee 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

That's not true, people are more and more willing to acknowledge and address climate change. There's been a big shift from ten years ago.

[-] xts@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not like it even matters at this point. There’s a decades long lag time on CO2 emissions so even if we completely stop today the planet will continue warming for decades.

Not to mention the arctic circle is a literal ticking time bomb that will blow long before the anyways. Methane is literally blasting out from the ground leaving giant craters behind. Methane is 28 times more potent than CO2 when it comes to trapping heat in the atmosphere.

Just look at how countries around the world combatted COVID. Climate catastrophe is going to be magnitudes worse than that and people are still sticking their heads in the sand.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

It absolutely will matters... ever bit we can and emitting helps the planet in the future. No need for a fatalistic attitude.

[-] xts@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

We are (very likely) already past the point of no return when it comes to tipping points. You can’t refreeze the arctic which is currently thawing at alarming rates. You cant grab the methane back from the air and put it into the ground.

The release of methane and other ancient CO2 from the permafrost will catapult us past other tipping points like a BOE as well.

It’s not fatalistic, it’s realistic. The IPCC has warned of this stuff for years and people still believe renewables are going to allow us to skirt the worst of climate change when it’s already locked in lol.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah it's horrifying to watch I agree, that doesn't mean our actions don't have impacts

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Do you think the real reports from the petroleum institutes were so dire back in the day that they knew we we're already fucked regardless? I get that "money" but like, are/were they all just that cold and psychopathic that they kick the can knowing it means the likely eventual death of their progeny and end of their lineage? It's just so pervasive and the action so performative that it makes you question the very fabric of reality.

[-] HParker@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

My guess is people can always find someone to tell them what they want to hear. So much easier to be “operating based on the best information you have” than lie knowingly.