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Thoughts on the American Party of Labor (APL)? (www.americanpartyoflabor.com)
submitted 1 year ago by bencarson@hexbear.net to c/labour@hexbear.net
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I've been considering joining a leftist organization outside of the DSA but have heard some pretty terrible things about both CPUSA and PSL. I've read some pretty glowing reviews that the APL is the only purely ML party that sticks to its revolutionary/anti-revisionist roots. However, I can't find any actual unions that support APL (besides a teacher's union in the Dominican Republic?) and their platform is very explicitly Hoxhaist, which I'm not very familiar with.

Has anyone worked with them before?

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[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Out of those options I'd recommend PSL. It's larger and does things and its faults are plausibly reformable.

Also don't sleep on issue-focused left groups. They'll often be communists. The downside is that they usually have unique local names so you'll have to go find them.

What kind of work do you want to be doing? One way to find an org is to go to the events and actions you'd want to organize and finding out who organized them. For example, if you want to work on forming unions (presumably with a left angle), I'd recommend attending some pickets and start asking around to find some lefties.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They like albania, i know they are a small party formation and i dont think they led any unions. They are members of the International Conference of Marxist-Leninist Parties and Organizations so maybe searching that could give you more info on them.

You should probably read a bit more on hoxhaism, there is a hoxhaist blog called espresso stalinist if you want to know more about the views of them

[–] bencarson@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing! I'll definitely read up more about Hoxhaism -- and in any case the APL website seems to have a 10 week course that includes it as reading material for new members, so I might check that out, too.

Do you know if they're serious about political organization work, though? This is my primary concern. I checked out CPUSA a while back and it seemed to be filled with terminally online GenZedong transplants that had no interests in actually doing any labor advocacy, tenant organizing, worker mobilization, co-op development, etc. all at a time when the UAW strikes were going on nationwide. That's not to say I have no interest in political education -- there just didn't seem to be any of it there, and I mostly just saw edgy memes and uncritical (ironic?) surface-level idolization of Pol Pot, Kim Jong-Il, and other near personality cults that never looked at, from a leftist standpoint, where these leaders failed.

I'm really just looking for groups that aren't so disconnected from reality and are serious in their mission to support labor. If you know of any please let me know!

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they mostly seem to organize things like food and medical aid and supporting causes like unions or protests, they seem to be kinda small at the moment but i dont see anything bad about them, also if you want to know about another anti-revisionist ML org that its a little bigger there is Freedom Road Socialist Organization, i mostl heard good things about them, there is also an ML pre-party formation in its early stages called the American Council of Bolsheviks maybe they are also anti-revisionists.

good luck, i hope you find an org you like

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Asking purely out of curiosity but is it just me that finds it a bit odd for an org in USA formed in 2022 to be named the "American Council of Bolsheviks"? Like they're long gone and it's a party of another country opposite the globe

Their only statement was also just celebrating the October Revolution which also seems a bit weird to have as their only statement after an entire year