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[-] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 110 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I tell people I'm a software engineer but in reality I'm a config file engineer

[-] chameleon@kbin.social 66 points 10 months ago
[-] Jaccident@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Careers Fair; 2024

Teen: “Excuse me; how do I become a Tech Lead like you someday” Lead: “By simple luck of the draw I am the best at googling other people’s solutions to my team’s YAML config issues.”

[-] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 26 points 10 months ago

Eh. Software is just data too. It's about solving problems with systems using those systems and other systems and that's software engineering. It's recursive and wherever you are in the stack you're standing on the shoulders of giants, and you're still doing engineering. 💪

[-] ensignrick@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago

Lol. Legitimately.

[-] octoperson@sh.itjust.works 53 points 10 months ago

Did you know YAML is a recursive acronym? It stands for 'YAML AML MAML LAML'

[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Nature is beautiful❤️

[-] sxan@midwest.social 6 points 10 months ago

Is it polynomially recursive? Like, the AML stands for "AML MAML LAML", and so on?

[-] whodatdair@lemm.ee 33 points 10 months ago
[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago
[-] dauerstaender@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

And yet its faster, easier and more reliable in setting up and maintaining complex cluster software.

[-] Gecko@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

YAML would such a nice language for config files but then it turns out that "no" is falsy and so a list of Scandinavian countries turns from

  • se
  • fi
  • no

into

  • "se"
  • "fi"
  • False

I wish there was like a JSON5 equivalent for YAML that just reduces its scope lol
(and no, TOML also looks ugly :P)

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 19 points 10 months ago

Norway is false and Finland isn't in Scandinavia

[-] dafo@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

S W E D E N

S W E D E N

S W E D E N

[-] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 10 months ago

This is definitely a failing of yaml. Though, I feel that generally it's the sort of thing you learn once the hard way, then it sticks with you pretty well.

Also I'm glad there are more anti-toml folks are out there, feels like I'm taking crazy pills when people say it is "simple" and "elegant". IMO it's uglier than old-school ini format - at least it's more strictly defined but that doesn't really sway me to convert

[-] orangeboats@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

TOML isn't elegant at all but damn, it is really simple.

[-] ApexHunter@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

If by simple you mean "can't count from 1 to 10 in a loop" and by elegant you mean "easier to understand than a one line perl script" then sure...

[-] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

You're looking for StrictYaml

[-] Gecko@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Looks interesting, I'll check it out, thanks :D

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 20 points 10 months ago

Could've been worse. Could be unprettified json.

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago

Json is incredibly easy to prettify.

[-] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 10 months ago

I do it by converting to yaml ;)

[-] Cratermaker@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago

I wrote a json prettifier a couple months ago with just a couple lines of code. I thought it would take a while but ended up taking like 10 minutes.

[-] ElectricCattleman@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

js's JSON.stringify(obj, null, 2);

[-] kbotc@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Import json Import pprint?

[-] 30p87@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago
[-] 30p87@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago
[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

I use jq pretty much every day

[-] Dasnap@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Me carrying a comically oversized box of compose files.

[-] optimal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 10 months ago

Fucking hate YAML. With every fibre of my being. YAML needs tO GTFO

[-] neoney@lemmy.neoney.dev 5 points 10 months ago
[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago
[-] Zuluparadise@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

My fatass read a box of donuts

[-] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

I didn't know that ansible-galaxy had a comic

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

In typical ansible fashion, expect it in 20 years.

[-] neoney@lemmy.neoney.dev 1 points 10 months ago

A fun YAML fact is that it’s a superset of JSON. All JSON is valid YAML.

[-] tja@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Not sure, how much fun there is in that fact

[-] fl42v@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago

Those devops should switch to nix already 😁

this post was submitted on 12 Nov 2023
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