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[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 102 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The fact that this meme makes sense to anyone demonstrates how dynamic typed programming languages cause brain damage.

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[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 95 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like TypeScript less for its ability to categorize my grocery list and more for its ability to stop anyone from putting cyanide on it.

[–] DrM@feddit.de 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate Typescript for promising me that nobody can put cyanide on the list, but in reality it disallows ME from putting cyanide on the list, but everyone else from the outside is still allowed to do so by using the API which is plain JavaScript again

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, programming is great for teaching you that you are the stupid one. This is still a feature.

[–] DrM@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

The main problem with JavaScript and TypeScript is that there is such a little entrybarrier to it, that way too many people use it without understanding it. The amount of times that we had major issues in production because someone doesn't understand TypeScript is not countable anymore and our project went live only 4 months ago.

For example, when you use nest.js and want to use a boolean value as a query parameter.

As an example:

@Get('valueOfMyBoolean')
@ApiQuery(
  {
    name: 'myBoolean',
    type: boolean,
  }
)
myBooleanFunction(
  @Query('myBoolean') myBoolean: boolean
){
  if(myBoolean){
    return 'myBoolean is true';
  }
  return 'myBoolean is false';
}

You see this code. You don't see anything wrong with it. The architect looks at it in code review and doesn't see anything wrong with it. But then you do a GET https://something.com/valueOfMyBoolean?myBoolean=false and you get "myBoolean is true" and if you do typeOf(myBoolean) you will see that, despite you declaring it twice, myBoolean is not a boolean but a string. But when running the unit-tests, myBoolean is a boolean.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is more a condemnation of nest.js than ts. It seems great in theory. I like the architecture and the ability to share models and interfaces between front and backend, but it's objectively makes everything more complicated. It adds layers of abstraction that should not be necessary and it's such a niche/unpopular framework for backend systems that you generally have to jump through hoops to do anything moderately complex. Not only do new devs have to learn typescript to use it, they have to learn the nest architecture to know how to do things "the right way" and you still end up in situations like this which looks perfectly valid but isn't. Typescript was never meant to be used for backend, and trying to make it do so and then complaining about it is like jogging while carrying a gun, shooting yourself in the foot, and blaming the gun.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Two questions immediately come to mind. 1) Would you buy the cyanide if it was on the list. 2) Where does one casually buy cyanide? I can't imagine a case where I'd need some, but it would be handy to know if I ever did.

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[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd say its more like the gas tank telling you that you aren't allowed to pour in brake fluid as that could lead to runtime errors.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago
tank.pour(brakeFluid as Any); // do not remove this for some reason will break prod
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[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 year ago

Tomato: Any

[–] uis@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biologists: but tomato is a berry, which is subset of fruits

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Also biologists: "vegetable" is purely a culinary term, and doesn't have any significance in the world of botany

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago

As it happens, when we go shopping for food we have more of a culinary mindset than botanical.

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[–] scorpionix@feddit.de 29 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Am I missing the joke? Tomatoes are fruits.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Intelligence is knowing Tomatoes are fruits.

Wisdom is knowing not to put them in a fruit salad.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Greek salad would like a word... the only things that aren't a fruit in Greek salad are the onions and feta.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wisdom is knowing not to put them in a fruit salad.

A Greek salad is not a fruit salad, it is a...Greek salad.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pragmatism is putting tomatoes with the vegetables because of taste, which is one of the most important parts of food.

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[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The joke is that almost everyone calls them vegetables because the botanic categorisation of parts of plants is niche jargon that is not useful in everyday life, whereas the culinary categorisation is useful, and so your shopping list correcting you is worse than unnecessary.

[–] mpa92643@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But that's not what TypeScript does. The joke in the meme doesn't really even make sense.

A better analogy would be you have a basket that's explicitly labeled "Fruit" and TypeScript complains if you try to put laundry detergent in it because you said it's supposed to be a basket of fruit.

This meme was clearly made by someone who doesn't use or understand TypeScript.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

This meme was clearly made by someone who doesn't use or understand TypeScript.

It was made by someone who doesn't understand types, period.

Curious if it's the same wizard who was explaining that Linus doesn't understand programming because he has opinions on arm vs Intel architecture. EVERYONE programs in JavaScript anyways and my JavaScript always works on arm. Has Linus lost the plot?

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

As a proud Massachusettsan, tomatoes are definitely vegetables.

(Technically, tomatoes are both fruits and vegetables)

[–] two_wheel2@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren’t fruits subsets of vegetables? Without looking it up I thought that vegetables were the edible part of the plant and fruits are edible reproductive parts of the plant. I could be totally off on that though.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea, you're totally correct. This whole confusion comes from a Supreme Court case that involved tariffs though... Basically, tomatoes are a staple good and should be taxed like a regular vegetable and not receive the elevated fruit tax.

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[–] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I swear to god, sometimes I really don't know what Typescript really wants from me. It's like some old god: you know it needs a sacrifice but the god is not telling you exactly what he wants. So you can only try and pray.

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Idk, I find it pretty easy to understand

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The "return type <5 paragraphs of various word salads> is not compatible with " error messages are anything but easy to understand in my opinion.

[–] gornius@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I don't get why it spits out whole types instead of only differences between them. Like "function expects non-null 'some.param.in.object' of type 'string' in argument 'someArgument', which is missing in passed argument".

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[–] schaeferpp@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago

I'm a bit disappointed that nobody mentioned Rust yet.

[–] bestusername@aussie.zone 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah... What?

Tomatoes are fruits.

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[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Guess it's not only Typescript that likes to argue with the developer while missing the entire point...

[–] aeharding@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Report -> I'm in this picture and I don't like it

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

somewhere brodie lee just threw some papers

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[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Intelligence is knowing that tomato is a fruit, wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

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[–] yoast@notdigg.com 7 points 1 year ago

I've seen versions of this meme before but I just noticed what he's wearing. Is that a Mortal Kombat shirt?

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