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Literally asking for people to interfere with the court case...
Sounds familiar...
And he will face no consequence for it.
And will only get even more bolder as a consequence. It's quite fascinating how that shit head is exposing so many flaws in the current political system. And yet very little is done about it.
Edit- Retracting my statement as I read your reply as "justice system" not "political system."
I shouldn't be awake.
I wish it were only the political system, but it is also the social contract that is being broken.
Not everything in a society can and should be regulated by law. For example, we know not to cough or sneeze in someone else's face, but to put our arm or hand in front of our face. It's not a law and yet 99% of people know it and do it and call out people who don't.
The US political system worked well for a while because there were do's and don'ts that weren't made into law, but every politician respected them to some degree. The GOP no longer respects anyone or anything, not an unwritten rule or even a written law, but they want to be respected, they want their rights to be respected.
This is not just happening in the US, I see it happening in the UK and Germany for example. Basic respect for each other is being lost more and more, between families, between neighbours, even between politicians. How do you get that back?
We don't know how to deal with it as a society. We can't have a law for everything. We depend on people and politicians to keep within the minimum social rules and follow an unwritten code, and we have nothing to punish them if they don't and they just ignore these rules and spit on them.
Won't someone rid me on of this meddlesome priest?
this should be a clear violation of the gag order. but it wont be. theyll be some hand waving and he wont be held to account. and no, a monetary fine is not justice.
The gag order was in reference to court staff only, wasn't it? Didn't the judge explicitly leave himself off it? I forget which judge this is, there are so many
Judge said they had thick enough skin to deal with whatever he said.
I doubt the judge is OK with Trump openly calling for people to do harm to them.
That was very stupid of the judge. Insults and mockery normally are just that. But when someone has a platform as large as Trump full of violent traitors, it turns into death threats pretty quick.
Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?
Judges have to be careful with their orders. They have a lot of power, but are always subject to review. No judge wants to see their orders overturned on appeal because of some action they took.
So while a judge absolutely can impose a broad gag order on Trump right away based on his past behavior, his lawyers get to appeal, and they have shown that their legal strategy is whining about every little thing until they get their way.
By doing out punishments in small stages, he can establish a clear pattern of objectionable conduct, such that when the harsher penalties come, his lawyers have a much worse position to whine from.
honestly im surprised he didnt just outright threaten someone. it kinda feels like this is a desperate attempt at a mistrial.
how many judges would allow 'well, you only broke the intent of my rules not the letter, so ill let it slide this 3rd time'. its prolly zero... unless of course you know the intent of the defendant is to generate a mistrial or other incident allowing appeal.
Hold him in jail NOW, no excuses
lol if only.
We're sleepwalking into fascism.
It's amazing how many times I've seen historians say that this is exactly how historic examples of fascism come about. First people laugh and think 'that would never happen. It's too absurd. Then as day turns steadily into night you look around and realize it's there and it's too late.
I have zero respect for anyone who continues to support the Republican Party, let alone Donald Trump. I can't help but see the same gullible, immoral, selfish fools that supported the likes of Hitler in the early 30s.
The 100th anniversary of the Beer Hall Putsch was last week. History doesn't repeat, but it certainly rhymes.
I thought woke was going to destroy America, which is it
I mean, the folks complaining about woke aren't the same folks worried about fascism, it's not like you've called out some contradiction.
Like occupy, it was appropriated by Wall Street.
This dude gets more unhinged and desperate every passing day, but a huge chunk of Americans just can't see it. It's crazy.
I think a lot of them do see it, but he pisses off the libs and seems to be promising to hurt the people they want to be hurt, so they are OK with that.
He's literally Hitler, just without the genocide.
Yet.
There's still time.
Just remember Hitler built up to that. He started off small just like trump is.
For a way too large group, his being unhinged bigoted rants are a selling point, not a liability.
For way too many others, they don't care about his unhinged rants because he's pledging to hurt OTHER people, not them.
The former are bad, but aren't enough to sweep Trump into power. The latter, though, could help Trump attain power and then will act shocked when they get targeted.
Remember, guys: defending free speech for Nazis is totally the best way to "preserve democracy"
I really wish more people understood the paradox of tolerance.
Tolerance is a social contract, not an ideal. If someone refuses to adhere to the contract, then they are not entitled to the benefits of it either. Hence, there is no paradox. When we say "be tolerant to all" what we mean is "please adhere to the social contract, and assume everyone else does so, until proven otherwise".
The Judge after a Right Wing Terrorist puts a bullet in his head: "Let this $10000 fine be a warning to NOT let this happen again!"
While Trump deserves our ire and some jail time, I'm more concerned with what his popularity says about our society.
He's a gift in some ways: he's shown the true colors of our neighbors to us. If he makes it to the oval office again, so much would have to have gone wrong in the belt-and-suspenders approach being used right now.
I trust that there's an end game to disqualifying him because that's the only way we can buy time while figuring out how to address the ugly xenophobic truth about the future in the US.
I STRONGLY recommend reading Susan Faludi's "stiffed" if you want a play book on where we're headed (spoiler: it's the 90s again, but worse because one of the lost boys could be POTUS again)
WHY IS THIS MAN STILL WALKING FREE
The judge created this. By slapping him on the wrist, ever so gently, he is absolutely going to get more of it.
Wise TF up judge. Jail. No posting anything about the trial, your court, or anyone involved. You are not dealing with a normal person. He’s a demented sociopath. You can not allow this.
Translation: "The legal system isn't sufficiently stacked in my favour anymore like all the previous hearings were, so somebody move to illegal means of nudging the results while I hide behind plausible deniability in saying that I did not mean that at all."
Trump is a damn criminal fascist grifter. The day he leaves our lives, I'll do a goddamn dance.
"Will no one arrest this turbulent judge?"
I’m watching a coup so slo mo, it’s dragging out for almost four years, while Congress, the courts and doj do nothing.
Ball gag this orange lard and throw him in solitary, Christ.
"I wasn't calling for violence when one of my supporters did violence to these people. I said citizen arrest. They misinterpreted when they thought I wanted violence. The knock-on effect of chilling any future prosecutions also isn't what I wanted."
Do it yourself f-ing orange clown. Such a grift.