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Dear RedHat, are you dumb?
(www.jeffgeerling.com)
Question: Unless your an enterprise or certifying software for an enterprise why do people use RHEL? There are just so many other options without the drama.
I used to use it because they backport secruity patches for software that the official dev team has abandoned - sometimes extending how long you can use that software by several years which is really nice peace of mind. It means I can upgrade on my own schedule, instead of on someone else's schedule.
I don't use RHEL anymore.
I guess they're following the pissbaby toddler train culture that's been growing in the techbro community as of late. The whole attitude of "We know better than our users, we're going to aggressively monetize the shit out of it and nobody is going to care."
Guess RedHat is going to learn the same thing that so many others have learned before them: Don't piss off your users.
Especially not Linux users. This isn’t grandma with windows 95, or Uncle with his iPhone, Linux users are almost guaranteed to have in the past tried other distros.
They will again. Begrudgingly, but they won’t look back either.
The average FOSS enthusiast never was the target market for Red Hat. Big corporations whose purchasing departments like expensive support contracts are the target market. And for those, not much changes, and even if it did, those places don't just switch to another distro on a whim.
Very frustrating to hear. I've been slowly migrating away from RHEL-based distros after they shifted CentOS to be upstream from RHEL. This is another nail in the coffin in my books.
And just like that, my attempt at Linux on the desktop (take #4123), which was going to be Fedora, is back in flux. I don't want to start investing time into a learning project in major transition and an uncertain future.
Ironically, I'm looking again at OpenSUSE, which I had left back during the SuSE-> OpenSUSE period. (You can tell I'm OG because I'm one of the few that uses the correct capitalization! haha)
IMO Ubuntu has been the best bet for linux on the desktop since about 2006.
They occasionally do things people dislike, but it's always easy to pick a different flavour (Xubuntu and Ubuntu-mate are great examples IMO), and the underlying distro is reliable and stable.
I'm also a big fan of LTS releases, and supported upgrade paths between them.
/2c
I was considering it, but I've done little auditions of Ubuntu over the last 10 years and something doesn't feel right. It was awesome in the late '00s, but it hasn't clicked with me since. Maybe it was the 1-2 pow of trying to make a phone OS and then the phone-looking launcher.
Thanks for the tip, though. I'll give it a go if my next candidate gets too messy. (Yes, it's definitely the distros' fault, not mine. Okay, maybe 20% mine. Or 95%. Something like that.)
I thought Mint was the big thing now. (I'm not big on Linuxnews, just what I heard.)
Mint is very easy to transition to from Windows and pretty stable. I've probably used that the most in the last 5 years and my only gripe is that it's a little out of date (but that adds to the stability) and configuring sound has been a bit annoying.
I've been using Arch, and very happy with it. Very low maintenance except updating once every one or two weeks.
I just installed Fedora. I think it's good for a laptop which you plan to seldom open or update. I'll continue using it.
I'll stay far from Ubuntu, because I do not like snap - and it reminds me of Windows on how I have to tinker to avoid something the OS wants to push on me.
If you were considering Ubuntu then you'd like Debian - and wouldn't go wrong with it.
Honestly the news seems to be about RHEL. Fedora should still be good.
Yeah, I assume I'll be wrestling with package managers regardless (I remember YAST having it's own thing that didn't always play nice with others), and supposedly Ubuntu was looking to move away from snaps, so another major factor that will be changing soon.
But Arch? I dunno, man. Younger me used to update shit daily and read changelogs, but current me lets stuff go a few months. I;m not sure that attitude or my level of comfort are quite at Arch levels. I'll give it another look, though. Or maybe I'll just go FreeBSD to spite everyone and embrace my masochism!
I vaguely remember hearing something about redhat in the past doing something else the Linux community didn't like. I think it was back around 2008ish. Can anyone jog my memory? I was a bit too young to care at the time.
TIL RedHat is still relevant. I used RedHat in the 90s. I assumed it got left behind there.
So you haven't been paying attention for the past 20 years where Red Hat has consistently been the top Linux-centric company in terms of Kernel commits? This move has completely removed Red Hat or derivatives from my consideration when setting up new installs, but it's just silly or ignorant to pretend they aren't relevant.
this post was submitted on 25 Jun 2023
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