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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by e8d79@feddit.de to c/foss@beehaw.org

The creators of SponsorBlock did it again, now we can crowdsource better titles and thumbnails as well. I just tried it with LinusTechTips who is a worst offender when it comes to clickbait and its really great.

Compare without DeArrow

and with the extension

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[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I'm loving this and have contributed a bunch already, but one problem I'm noticing is people labeling things "reviews" on videos that are definitely not reviews, like impressions videos or unboxings.

[-] ajayyy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting problem. I wonder if people will re-learn the correct terms over time when seeing other labeled submissions. I feel the word "review" has destroyed by a lot of YouTube channels.

[-] XPost3000@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly I'd probably be the type to be like "yeah I hate click bait!" Download this, and then stop watching videos entirely because they all look really boring

[-] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

That's a win if you ask me.

[-] athalean@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I've already noticed a couple videos where the corrected title made me more interested in the video than the clickbait title. Hope this extension takes off!

[-] Pechente@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

That’s how it is most of the time for me. I unsubbed from LTT because their clickbaity videos made it hard for me to see what I’m interested in. With this extension I might actually start watching their stuff again.

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Holy shit! This is amazing! But how will I ever know what's REALLY IMPORTANT without ALL CAPS and a shitton of BANGS?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[-] st3ph3n@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Don't forget the USELESS FUCKING ARROWS.

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Unless it's pointing to a red circle.

[-] Spiritreader@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That seems cool. I'll definitely try that out, thanks for sharing!

Already using sponsor block and that saved me quite a bit of time!

[-] obsoulete@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I tried it. It works well. But, I don't think I will use it, because I usually know YouTubers to avoid when it comes to clickbaiting. Looking at you, Scotty Kilmer. :)

[-] janus2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

If this ever gets ported for NewPipe and/or LibreTube it'll be sensational

The fact that it exists makes me happy :]

[-] Sleeping@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

If I still used YT's main front-end, this would've been great.

[-] e8d79@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

SponsorBlock has been added to alternative frontends as well, so there is a good chance DeArrow will be ported.

[-] Kissaki@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

This extension is free, forever, for anyone who installs it during the beta. Yes, that means there will be a paywall for new users only in the future, but I promise that there will still be a way to for people to get free access. Of course the extension will always remain fully open source, with a publicly downloadable database, just like SponsorBlock.

I'm a bit confused what this means / will mean. A paywall but also still alternative free access?

[-] e8d79@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Where are you quoting this from? I could not find any information about a paywall.

[-] Kissaki@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

mh, I can't find it anymore either. Pretty sure it was on the website, on the main or about page. I was on various other pages looking for contribution info too though. Maybe it changed? Maybe it's now considered t obe out of beta?

[-] mindyabeesnes@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

I'm seeing it right now on the extension's welcoming page right after install

[-] e8d79@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I also found it here. I have asked the developers for clarification.

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

After Mastodon and Lemmy I think need a federated youtube alternative now too. Yes, I know PeerTube exists, I just need it to get a nice boost in attention just like the other got.

[-] UlfarrOT@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Just out of curiosity, how do you determine what is and isn't clickbait?

[-] ChrisFhey@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'd like to know this as well. The extension looks super interesting, but how does it determine what to replace the thumbnail and title with?

[-] Spudger@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

When it removes the entirety of LTT from YouTube it will worth a try. There isn't much in this world that makes me seethe but that plonker is one.

[-] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I get that people can find him annoying, but that plonker's video on dashcams actually helped me make a properly informed choice that literally saved me hundreds of dollars AND ensured I got something that actually had higher fidelity recording than many devices multiple times its price.

[-] Spudger@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

I'm glad he saved you money. I just wish he'd learn the basic grammar of production.

He's not the only bad YouTuber. 99.9% of them are clueless. Take the ubiquitous jump cut edit. They are everywhere. This is fine if you're a nouvelle vague French film director in the 1950s and 60s but have no place in a YT vid. It's unprofessional. None of these people seem to be able to get through a paragraph of text without fluffing their lines and consequently having to jump cut over the mistake. Watch an Andy Edwards music analysis vid and you'll see he can get through 45 minutes without a single edit. He knows his subject well and therefore is less prone to errors. If he does screw up he's smart enough to explain it and just let things flow without interruption.

What's with editing every breath and pause between sentences? Anyone that tried to talk like than in real life would die of oxygen deprivation before the end of their vid. It's unnatural and destroys the flow.

Then there's the unnecessary use of effects. It reminds me of the early days of desktop publishing when everyone and his dog suddenly became typographers. The horror, the horror. Just because they have 49 installed typefaces doesn't mean they have to use all of them in their poxy one page newsletters but that didn't stop them.

The basic principles of film and TV production were established over a century ago. If some spotty oik with a computer and a cam in his bedroom at his parents' house thinks they can do better then bring it on. I have yet to see any evidence of this happening. Putting some Star Wars toys on a shelving unit in the background and draping some LEDS over it is not visual innovation.

Let me summarise: Know your subject. Write a decent script. Learn it. Rehearse until you are perfect. Don't use SUPERFLUOUS capitalisation in the TITLES of your latest MASTERPIECE.

I've been in the business too long and amateurs irritate the f**k out of me. There's a lot more I could mention but life's too short.

Ok. grumpy old man rant over :)

[-] weirdwriter@tweesecake.social 0 points 1 year ago

@Spudger @foss I would even argue that you don’t even have to be good at reading your script. Just get rid of all the jump cuts and videos would become much more bearable

[-] Spudger@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Yup. I used to enjoy Niccolove's work when he was a naive noob with no idea about production. Now he's just another unwatchable YouTuber drowning in effects and gimmicky editing. The first rule of communication is communicate first. Everything else is Garni du Jour (© Frank Zappa):

The way in which the material is presented is equally important as what's on the record. It's the GARNI DU JOUR way of life. You go buy a hamburger. If somebody gives you a hamburger on a dish, it means one thing. If somebody gives you a hamburger on a dish with a piece of green stuff and a wrinkled carrot and a radish – even though you don't eat that stuff – it's a Deluxe Hamburger. It's the same piece of dog meat on the inside, but one's got the GARNI DU JOUR. American have become accustomed to having a GARNI DU JOUR on everything

[-] randomperson@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I kinda like LTT materials, especially with Anthony but this extension is a godsend as I always hated their crappy thumbnails and titles.

[-] e8d79@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago
[-] randomperson@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't aware of that.

[-] sdc@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago
[-] ajayyy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, I hope to have it up in a few weeks

[-] sdc@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I've been using it for a few days. Some occasional loading delays but it's been great. Thanks!

[-] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Oh nice, thank you for making this and Sponsorblock Ajay, what a great person.

[-] unabatedshagie@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Awesome, it's like Clickbate Remover +.

If it works half as well as SponsorBlock I'll be a happy man.

[-] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I was genuinely surprised how well SponsorBlock works. I was assuming it to skip the sponsored sections only on accounts with millions of subscribers but in reality it almost never fails.

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