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I mean Trilium is fantastic app, lots of potential but the developer is struggling on his own, maybe it's because it's younger than logseq or maybe because is open source compared to obsidian. I think it's the best note-taking/knowledge-base/second-brain i know it virtually could link everything you posses toghter to create a gigantic wiki, so much potential. Plus it has its own self hostable syncing server and web app. Guys give it a look and tell me what you think

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[โ€“] PigSaint@lemmy.film 1 points 1 year ago

I used Evernote for a long time but, you know, non-FOSS things happened. Then I tested several open source alternatives and I finally switched to Joplin. I am really happy about it. I didn't remember why I discarded Trillium, maybe because I can't share my notes with my Android device.

[โ€“] tpWinthropeIII@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Looking at this today, here are a few reasons for why it may not be adopted on a wider scale.

Looking for their web clipper extensions

  • I see no extension in the Firefox store. The source code is at GitHub. Most won't bother.
  • I see an extension for chrome. Yay! However, in the permissions section, for those privacy minded, it appears to request permission to "read and change all your data on all websites." Had this been a Firefox extension this would mean it can see all of your passwords and anything you see on the Web. This is probably also true for chrome but I can't state it as fact. Perhaps someone can explain why this isn't a red flag.

If you want to sync between different devices, it's great that it supports a sync server. However, how many users are going to self host a server? 1% or less of the population? For the remaining 99%... The website appears to be silent as to how to manually sync between two or more desktop computers manually. Maybe it can be done? I don't eat to be the first to try

Look at the details of the upgrade path. It looks rough going. And issues at GitHub reflect this . Take a look.

A single SQL lite database file hiddenly stores everything. This is scary for those of us who have lost our data on other SQL lite platforms like the darktable photo editor. SQL lite databases are supposed to be so reliable they say... Until they are not.

Markdown does not appear to be it's standard. That can be good or bad ๐Ÿ˜”
For me that might be bad because the more privacy friendly markdown web clippers might not work . I'll have to try .

That's a lot of friction to overcome. Not to mention the extent of cross platform support compared to logseq. Still, I might quickly try it just because of it's code notes and math notes. I could really use these. In fact I may only use it for those and use logseq for web and general knowledge stuff.

I hope someone can correct any misinterpretations I've made. Please feel free. I'm trying to like Trillium.

[โ€“] tpWinthropeIII@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

I may have been too harsh on Trilium in my previous note.

It turns out that logseq is going to release a database version using SQLlite as well. Therefore it's not fair to dis Trilium for using SQLlite.

Also, logseq has many documented sync problems. Logseq, at the time of this writing is alpha software IMO. Logseq can't be considered beta because data integrity issues exist.

The issues with extension privacy I mentioned is still an issue for me but I can give Trilium a try using other extensions that copy to markdown while being privacy friendly.

I plan to try Trilium and see if I can find a desktop only solution with sneakernet / manual syncing to be safe, at least at first.

[โ€“] drwho@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For whatever it's worth, this is the first I've ever heard of it (I thought you were referring to the IM client at first). It doesn't seem to be on any of the popular self-hosted software lists (like https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted).

That was my first thought as well. IM client that I hadn't heard the name of in many years.

[โ€“] lupec@lemmy.lpcha.im 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I used it for a while and right up to the point I actually set it up to give it a go, I'd never even heard of it before. Definitely feels like it flies under the radar.

I loved the idea behind it, but a few points ended up sticking out so I ended up dropping it at some point. Namely, I didn't like the markdown editor much, plus it was very awkward to use on mobile (which, granted, is an issue with most competitors). I also don't like how it's dabatase based, vastly prefer using local markdown files. Plus, it's more of a personal thing but I came to prefer graph based implementations better than hierarchical ones. Still, really impressive project and I very much appreciate that it's open source and fully self hostable, not much in the way of competition there when it comes to second brain alternatives.

After exploring a few options, I've ended up on Logseq. Shame that one isn't self hostable, not fully anyway, since last I checked you still need to open a local folder even if you do host it yourself.

[โ€“] hodgepodgehomonculus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ive tried out loads of thees knowledge base apps, but I always end up coming back to org-mode and org-roam. Once I integrated everything into Emacs, its hard to swap out to something else.

[โ€“] da_g@feddit.it 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could you talk me through your setup? I'm interested, thank you

[โ€“] hodgepodgehomonculus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a pretty basic org-roam setup I think. I keep my org files all in a directory called "org" that I sync with syncthing (previously I used Dropbox), and whenever I setup a new machine, I just grab that folder and put it at my user root (with Dropbox I would just symlink the folder from "~/Dropbox/org" to "~/org").

Now no matter what machine I am on and where I make my changes I have them all up to date.

I generally have large nodes that contain all my knowledge, and I split them up as they get too big. E.g I used to have a single UnityEngine node, but over time I have split it up into many different nodes: EditorWindow, ScriptableObjects/UnitTesting/etc..

I have at least one node for each of my projects, and there is a "Tasklist" heading in each of those project nodes which contain all my TODOs, those project files are tagged with the name of the project, so that I can easily write an org-agenda search to grab all the TODOs from a single project into a single view without anything else I have stored in the file (which includes a project synopsis, architecture notes/UML diagrams, general notes, etcc..).

Since I am already in emacs when I am writing code, this keep it very simple for me to have this information as accessible as all my code files are. When I discover a new language feature or have to look something up, I just open up the node for that language, and put that new information in, linking to the source where i grabbed that snippet, or where the full MSDN documentation is stored if I need to go more in depth that my short description I write it. Copying down the information helps me internalize it, and I can easily just search through that file for information I have stored. This means that even if I don't have internet access, I have access to all my previously looked up information I maybe have forgotten.

[โ€“] da_g@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

That is very interesting, thank you very much