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So I was watching a few youtubes and remembered how the vast majority (of like the ten) nes games me and my sister had were hard as all hell. I loved to play Little Nemo and Street Fighter 2010 but I am pretty sure I never made it past the third level of either. Let alone infamously hard games like The Lion King.

Which got me thinking. Basically every game for the past 20 years has been designed around instant gratification and being accessible. We outright had to make a new concept "hard but fair" to account for games like Dark Souls that are designed to be difficult but beatable as opposed to putting you in a death spiral if you hesitate too long on a hard jump (hello Ninja Gaiden).

So do the younger folk even have a concept of a "favorite game" where you likely never experienced more than fifteen minutes worth of content?

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[–] minthenry@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Does it count I loved Quake 3 back in the day? Wasn't good at all at it but still I think it's one of the greatest games ever made and I loved playing it, especially Rocket Arena.

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

It really just depends on the genre. Platformers usually have one set difficulty. As does games like Castle Crashers. A few rogue likes offer difficulty settings but they typically range from very difficult to impossible without options for easy.

That said games like the lion king were interesting because their difficulty is typically so high because designers back then were designing for the arcade, even with home release only games. It's a mindset the industry was in.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not that young anymore but I put more hours into Planetside 2 than is even reasonable for how fucking bad I am at it.

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not very good at Diablo 4, I mainly picked it up thinking it would have a sort of MMO thing and expected something not too different to a grindy time waster.
I mainly play other genres, and the last Diablo game I played was D2, when I was a teenager (mid-30s now), which I didn't even get far into.

I just started Act 6, which I believe is the last, most recently. Where I skip cut scenes in other games I'm really enjoying the story of this, and so I'm finding myself watching them all the way through. The voice acting is great and I've never actually felt properly bored.

I'm not bad, but not what I see as the average player of this sort of thing (so not very good either), yet I enjoy it a fair bit! Veeeery dark story, and the cut scenes are incredibly gory sometimes. I think that's really cool from an artistic standpoint, I kind of get why people like deep horror films so much: there's just so much cool stuff artists can do with dark themes, and the artists in Diablo 4 really go ham with this! Lilith has like a freakin' head of horn clusters, like they said "fuck two horns, just keep adding them!" But they made her character REALLY cool looking by doing so. I love it.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't played it, but I remember watching the opening cinematic where Lilith gets summoned. I love her aesthetic as a demon queen, with the skin wings and all.

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Oh same. That intro is what drew me in. Reminds me of when I used to sketch all sorts of demonic beings for fun. But not just the appearance, for me the entire cut scene elements impressed me. From the design to the voice acting and general demeanor of the characters. The emotional depth within each role is rather well accomplished, I would say.

[–] tebro@lemmy.tebro.fi 2 points 1 year ago

Escape from tarkov. I am intrigued by the concept of the game, but each time I played I was outmatched in gear and skill.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Never thought about it like that. The Adventures of Willie Beamish taught me a lot about the nature of an uncaring universe... And now I don't think it's possible for someone to be frustrated in that same vexating way anymore as the solution is only ever a google away.

[–] Castob@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Slay the spire I must have 400hrs+ of game time on multiple platform. Yet I still suck ass!!

All rhythm games and fighting games.

[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I recommend you go visit the Dwarf Fortress forums.

[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

League of Legends

Damn that shit is hard

[–] MycoBro@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The fucking lion king. Aladdin was hard af too. But roger rabbit? I couldn’t beat that bouncing around mother fucker and I don’t know if I ever did. And fuck kid Icarus. Another one I never beat. But the answer to the question is Turok for 64

[–] Mrderisant@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I'm bad at most games so yes

[–] aelwero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Karate Champ. I probably spent hundreds of dollars on that game and never got past the third match, and don't have the slightest clue what would make a round kick score a full point or a half point... You could come up with strats that usually worked, but nothing ever worked reliably... Mortal Kombat you could come up with strats that would 100% get you double flawless, but it's grandpappy would toss all manner of randomness at your ass and fuck you up pretty reliably :)

I don't think there's any game I like that I'm good at

How do you define young?

I'm definitely too old but I loved Tarkov before cheaters ruined it.

I know some early-20's folks who grew up on DayZ.

Both games very hard to not suck at.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I could never beat PokΓ©mon Blue because I chose the grass starter.

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[–] maryjayjay@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love "Independence War 2: Edge of Chaos". I even run its official fansite.

To this day, I have never finished the game because it's hard. I mostly play it like a sandbox space pirate simulator. :D

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like the answer is yes, but I can't remember what if any game it was. Its just the feeling is familiar.

[–] tomcatt360@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Overwatch. I've played since 2018 and I still haven't climbed out of Bronze. I love the story and character lore a ton though!

[–] Doxatek@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I used to be gold and platinum but I think the ranking system is broken because I'm as good as I ever was and am consistently bronze -__-

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I wasn't expecting to call myself young but I guess I never did experience any games that were just brutal though I did get into gaming a bit later in life. The earliest game I played was Warcraft 3 and the main campaign was easy enough, some custom maps were harder but nothing really hard so 20 years ago games weren't really harder. The hardest thing in any game I have experienced in about 20 years of gaming was Midir with a magic build in dark souls 3 which I never did beat.

[–] JSens1998@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

For me it was Rainbow Six Siege.

Absolutely fell in love with the gun play (leaning in that game is my favorite mechanic in any game), destructible environments, operator gadget interactions, and repelling.

However, I was trash at the game because of slow reflexes due to bad eyesight, and poor aim. Relied on the gadgets while my team got the kills.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Tried for months but couldn't beat Rayman 2. Fuck you, razor beard.

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Fortnite lol, but now I’d never wanna touch it again.

I def sucked at Quake Champions at first but now I think it’s the best shooter around

[–] randomthin2332@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Whoooaa talking about the NES for me it was always "Castlevania" and "legends of Zelda II", gawd damn they were so difficult when I was a child.

Tbf you didn't say video game :p so basketball was another, used to think I was so Kool playing it. But dayumn did I suck at it.

Current day would probably be call of duty, I always think I'm gonna slay, then I get killed an call it bullshit >!but I know it's not bullshit, it was me!<

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