Browsers are bloat.
-- average Arch user
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As an arch user, I'm confused... Doesn't everyone use curl as their browser?
I recently switched to netcat, this lets me control the TCP stream more directly.
also cuter
Not related to Arch, but behold Richard Stallmann describing how he uses the internet: https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html (see section "How I use the internet" and the other section below that with the same title).
In fact, what I use is Maté (an English way of writing the Spanish word Mate).
As a Spanish speaker I'd just like to say
A: wtf is this even supposed to mean?
B: mate and maté are two entirely different words.
C: The mate desktop environment is named after hierba mate, no é.
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BTW, I use lynx.
OS ships with a browser.
Boo!
OS ships with a browser.
Yay!
It's not "shipping with a browser" that was ever the problem.
One of those is a good browser.
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But edge is chrome.
As a former edge user. I now use Firefox.
Edge = Chrome + popup ads for Microsoft services
Edge actually has a few nice features that chrome and Firefox miss.
Like native horizontal tabs and tab groups (chrome might have groups)
I still refuse to use it over Firefox though.
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You install something that at the core is the same as you but with a better interface.
It's funny how Microsoft just gave up on creating a new web browser and instead just rebranded someone else's homework.
It's what they do best, but it usually involves buying a company.
Edge integrates into M365 far better than Chrome integrates into Google Workspaces. I still use Firefox at work. But its cool for my illiterate users.
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I'm amaze by how many people still use chrome based browser. They really want to get their face eat by a leopard. Well we told you people, there's no reason left not to use firefox.
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Not anymore. Just open PowerShell
winget install whateveryouwant
Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned -Scope CurrentUser # Optional: Needed to run a remote script the first time
irm get.scoop.sh | iex
Microsoft doesn't need to even be involved
At least in win11.
Not sure about win10, which didn't have it installed by default orginally, but could be now? None of my win 10 machines are recent enough fresh installs to confirm, and have winget (and choco) installed because I installed it so I can install stuff easily.
On Windows 10 it was automatically installed as an update using - wait for it - the Microsoft Store.
Yes, the system-wide package manager was distributed as a package in the desktop store. 🤌
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not even that
winget install Mozilla.Firefox
Fuck Winget. It's a GUI-only person's idea of what a CLI package manager should be. The only positive value I can think of is that it's better than not having one at all.
I manage about 500 Windows machines in a university. When teachers started complaining that they are unfamiliar with the paid version of an IDE, and we'd have to install the free community edition, I was delighted to learn that it was available through Winget. But privilege escalation on Windows is a fucking joke, so trying to install it remotely through Ansible/WinRM just popped the UAC anyway. I had to VNC into every single machine to click the fucking button. As an additional middle finger, winget.exe was not even in PATH when I tried WinRMing as the local admin.
Winget is the absolute nadir of package managers, and it should be doused in acid, burned, chucked in the dumpster where it belongs, and forgotten. Choco and Scoop all the way.
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winget install Google.Chrome
Windows has a package manager like a big boy OS these days
WinGet is an AppGet rip-off without even a mention of the original creator. I'm still salty about that.
Microsoft offers to buy out AppGet and had its developer join them, but then ghost him once they realized the dev is also Sonarr dev.
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unpopular opinion preinstalling any browser is wrong
Found the Arch user.
i think it is very beneficial for the average user to have one of each common software category preinstalled
as long as you can uninstall everything
I think you mistyped "popular"
That’s the lemmy echo chamber. Poll a hundred people on how to get a program onto a computer without a browser and I’d be surprised if five people answered something other than a disk or that it’s impossible
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This meme makes no sense. Why would Windows want that?
Surprisingly I dont get weird popups when installing Firefox
It doesn't have to make sense as long as it bashes Windows.
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