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[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • Die in a few weeks? No
  • Get more users than reddit? No
  • Be a place in the long run for privacy minded people to escape corporatism and have discussions about any topic? Yes
[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let's be real, most of the growth of Reddit over the last 5 or so years haven't been the type of folks generating good content and discussion anyway. Even if Lemmy gets like 1% of the userbase this place is going to thrive.

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[–] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I see a ton of support, thousands are making the jump and dozens of apps are being made/getting updated now. Seems Lemmy/Kbin will only grow from here as long as there's no major setbacks

[–] Vaggumon@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was here before the Reddit implosion, will be after. Question is, will you be?

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[–] sota2077@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

This place has existed for a lot longer than the last month.

[–] BendyLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Hmmm the main question is whether it can get it's content to show up in search results - this being the main selling point of Reddit and other platforms.

Right now, if you help someone fix an issue it's pretty much walled in and unavailable.

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[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personal opinion: activity will spike around now, then plateau not much lower than its peak. It'll probably never be as popular as Reddit. I imagine most people will run into some minor inconvenience, then never try to use it again, and the rest of us will be here for years.

[–] sirnak@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I guess a big spike is still ahead, which will be around Saturday, once the 3rd party reddit apps shut down for good.

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Mate, it wasn't just created. This site has been around for a while

[–] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy will last because it was already around. I don't think it will die in a few weeks. Today is my first day using it and I love it. I'm sure anyone who tries it will like it, too.

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[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Two things to bear in mind...

  1. Lemmy existed before this current reddit fiasco, so it will exist after

  2. there are a critical mass of users now, and imo the userbase will continue to grow, with more and more unique content added

  3. Android / iOS apps are out, and in development. Mod tools are coming (iirc). As fediverse becomes less technical / easier to use, it's only going to attract more people

[–] sirnak@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the entry barrier is still higher than reddit. So I doubt we'll see reddit users migrate by the millions because not everyone believes in free and open platforms like most of us do. But I'm excited to see what happens on Saturday when 3rd party apps shut down.

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[–] burretploof@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

While I plan on using this platform for the forseeable future - I don't have too high hopes.

I think it will probably go the way Mastodon is going. A few weeks of being "hot", then dropping off until it's pretty much business as usual, as it was before being the hot new thing. Don't get me wrong, I want Lemmy to succeed and replace reddit, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

[–] BlackCoffee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Define "a few weeks"

The blackout started 12-06 which is 2 + weeks ago.

Lemmy and Kbin are still here and I see no sign of it slowing down. I see much more posts with more engagement which is a good thing.

[–] anthimatter@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I like it. It's not reddit and I like that about it most. I think it will stay and grow. I think we know what we don't want now and Lemmy could just be it.

[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I think and hope the fediverse will thrive in the years to come. It's the only way for us users to keep control over the platforms we use and feed.

It's time for the healthier internet we deserve. Networks like Facebook and Twitter have pushed toxic content to their users solely on the purpose of creating engagement. The World would be a very different place if that content had been moderated correctly instead of being pushed toward suggestible population.

I won't go back.

[–] sovietafro@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If lemmy can get the search algorithm to work well, it'll be good for a decent while I think... I hope for the sake of the internet everything needs to have some form of competition, and if Lemmy truly becomes the new reddit, hopefully we all learn what they did wrong and can make it better so that we as a collective have the best website/forum/memebase that's humanly possible

I’ll be here. I like that it takes a little more effort, it’s a little cumbersome or gatekeepy, but it also seems to keep the vibe more like the early internet and less like whatever it has currently turned into.

It reminds me of crypto spaces but without the incentive and monetization of action that seems to lead to a scammy and disingenuous feel to the content.

[–] Gleddified@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm ride or die once my 3PA stops working, so I hope it sticks around.

Gotta say, it would be more attractive if every other post wasn't a meta post about the platform and/or reddit. I hope we get some bots capable of ripping reddit posts and slapping them into Lemmy communities. As much as I'd like to pretend I'm a man of culture, sometimes I want shitposts and Tiktok reposts of someone's dog being stupid...

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When Reddit forces "new Reddit" is when the real migration will occur. Reddit is dying more and more every day.

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think it'll die... but it is a community that needs to be built basically from the ground up, while both the Lemmy/fediverse backend technology and infrastructure are actively being developed. Reddit refugees who want a drop-in alternative to doomscroll will probably be the first to leave.

The success or failure will be determined by the number of people willing to make an effort to post. Whether Lemmy (or the fediverse in general) will exceed the numbers of other services... I doubt it, but we wouldn't be here if we only cared about numbers.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I’m having fun here and it’s scratching my online discussion itch. I’ve barely been back to Reddit and when Apollo dies I think I will not go back at all. 16 years on Reddit and almost 300K karma.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think Lemmy will ever get the mainstream attention that reddit has to get big celebrity AMAs, but that may be a good thing, if it stays a genuine place like it is currently, people will come.

[–] Exusia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm leaning on content I've seen thus far but- If this becomes the place where content holds people, they will stay. To replace -the other site- Lemmy needs to be the place the general internet comes to for information and community questions. In this early stage people need to cement "this is where to come for answers" with regards to....everything. eli5, me-irl and even ask-reddit needs to come here. We joke about how Listicles hijack Reddit content but that's a sign of healthy creation at work. It gets the average non-reddit user conscious of the product and to come there when they have a question.

What needs to happen (if lemmy wants to replace Reddit) is lemmy needs that. It needs to enter the public conscience as an information nexus. To what degree is up for debate of each Instances admin. Beehaw straight said "nope"

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[–] hendrik@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think people will vent and quite a decent percentage will return to reddit eventually. Like it happened with twitter since Elon did his thing. But lemmy will stay. It has been here before all the people migrated from reddit and the fediverse in general will keep having a right to exist. And it will.

[–] rexxiteer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

AFAIK, Mastodon actually did gain a sizeable amount of users that actually stayed, even though the number of users has dropped since the peak.

I personally think something like Lemmy works better than Mastodon, since content is more important here than the users, which I think makes it more easy to have a self-sustaining community.

[–] stranger@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm interested to see the outcome of Reddit, since I've been there for almost a decade, but I'm kinda liking the change to lemmy and I definitely don't support Reddit's decisions or direction. I think I'm going to stay here and delete my Reddit account once I see the results of the 30th

[–] CannaVet@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While everyone wants to constantly cry about it not being Reddit - the fact that people are flocking here hand over fist over the more direct 1 for 1 Reddit clones shows that people do understand that we need to go back to a more decentralized web. Even if this doesn't hit critical Reddit size mass, there's enough of us to keep each other company ❤️

[–] Ipodjockey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Either way I'm done with reddit.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The Fediverse will live on as long as two people want to share content. Users ebb like waves on the shore, and the sea level is rising.

I didn't have Twitter, but moved back into the Fediverse once that imploded. I had another account years ago but it was too quiet. Mastodon's growth has been crazy to watch. I suspect Lemmy will be an echo of that, maybe this time or at some point in the future. It's no matter, though. The Fediverse is slow social media, which is a good thing.

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[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It will last. I plan to stay here. I hope everyone else does too. Even if Reddit totally went completely back to how it was, I deleted my account because I don't like their attitude. I also find the conversation better here. And it's all open source, which is always my preference.

Same with Twitter, I still use it to follow F1 drivers but that's it. 99% of my socials is done on Mastodon now as there are more people there who share my interests and it's open source.

[–] ellesper@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Lemmy has been around for quite a while, well before any of the recent issues. The userbase will probably die back once people get bored and go back to Reddit but some of us will still be here

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy was here before Reddit and it’ll be around for a long time.

[–] HorseFD@lemmy.buzz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Presumably you mean Lemmy was here before the recent reddit implosion

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Correct. Good catch.

[–] egeres@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Definitely will stay around, yet, realistically speaking, I don't have much expectations about this endeavor even scratching reddit's monopoly in the next 1 ~ 3 years (I hope I'm mistaken), who knows what will happen in 10 or 20

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It won't die in "a few weeks", simply because the likelihood of everybody abandoning ship in such a short timeframe is pretty much zero.

It will almost certainly become irrelevant after some years (we just don't know how many) because almost nothing remains relevant on the Net for more than a decade or two, though even "irrelevant" things still attract a few people so they rarelly "die".

Edit: Also and as a side note, I've actually been questioning just how many people needs to be around here for it to be a good place to be in. I don't think the "millions" of people of Reddit actually added to it and suspect that a few tens of thousand of users are enough for the place to feel interesting to be in and participate in, except perhaps in very obscure and niche subjects were you do need millions of people around for there to be a handful that are interested in such subjects.

It depends on the growth curve. Right now it's exponential, which means it will keep growing. When you see it stay linear for a while, it'll probably start to flatten. At that point, it's either big enough to stick or it's not.

[–] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It all depends on if Reddit continues to make decisions with disastrous optics. If this is the one and only user bump Lemmy will get off the back of Reddit, I can see it dying down in the future, but if there's more I think it'll take flight and eventually start snowballing on its own merits. I'm not sure if it'll ever be mainstream, but it'll persist - as it was before all this.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Aslong as I can shit post and talk about video game development I don't care where I am

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Give me a good Bethesda hot take, please.

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