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[–] Terces@lemmy.world 85 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Add Youtube to the list...

[–] casmael@startrek.website 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah YouTube is one of the more annoying ones imo

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Lack of any viable alternatives really sucks with YouTube in particular. Hosting video is too damn expensive.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

To me the most annoying part is everyone is so entrenched in youtube they either need to accept its a service they should pay for or start looking at migrating. There cant be any viable alternative if there isn't an audience.

Lemmy didn't have an audience for about 4 years until it did.

[–] RedIce25@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Add most of the commercial internet to the list

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[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

we have alternatives to both. people just need to switch.

but youtube is really hard to replace.

[–] 768@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago

Don't worry, there's TikTok. /s

SEO might actually enshittificate YT or make it dependant on AI. Both are hard to deal with from a privacy or open source POV.

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Nebula.tv has some promise. It's not free but it's very cheap and creator-owned. Plus there's no ads. But it can never be a true replacement for Youtube because it doesn't allow just anyone to upload there.

[–] Opafi@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What about Peertube as an alternative?

Like, I use neither. Just curious.

[–] covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

Hard to monetize + server costs

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[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My alternative to youtube is reading books from the local library and playing the guitar.
The decline of reddit and youtube especially has done wonders to my quality of life.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Newpipe is great, for me. I don't have a steady stream of recommendations or shorts, just content I actually subscribe to and whatever is trending if I go there, or manually search for.

The infection of ads into every corner of Social media legitimately was making me a worse person, with a shorter attention span and no mental clarity.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Your best bed with youtube is odysee. It is not perfect but much better then youtube.

[–] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A direct, very intentional, assault on major social media by fascists.

[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Wouldn't exactly say fashisim is to blame but rather simply corpos want maximize profit on a hinherently unprofitable business models. Like I'm personally not seeing much ideology getting pushed anywhere. Granted I hardly spend time on Twitter but all I've been seein on x is furry tits and on the other platforms just ads getting pushed. From what I can tell you can say what ever and no one will hear you over the ads.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is not much „maximizing profit“ in allowing fascists back on twitter. Elon is throwing money away for his political goals.

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[–] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I have Twitter completely blocked, just from the news alone it's clear Elon is pushing a political agenda at the expense of the business, which means it's the intended point, because he's not dumb. It doesn't matter what you specifically would see in your timeline these days, assuming you would follow better-than-garbage people. The platform is directly being advertised to the world as a place for fascist ideology to go unchecked. The people that know that, and stay on the platform specifically for that reason, are following a very different set of accounts and they're getting a huge, daily dose of empowerment as Elon lets it flow freely, even engages in it regularly. Again, intentionally.

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[–] satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Call me paranoid, but a ton of money is at stake over platforms that used to be useful in terms of spreading information. And they're both being tanked at the same time? During heightening 'geopolitical tensions'? And in the face of a strange upcoming election in the United States where both platforms started and are based?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't attribute the to maliciousness what can be attributed to the incompetence

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Hanlon's Razor

It fits well here.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Perhaps, in Twitter's case. I don't know.

In Reddit's case it's simply a moron aping another; I don't think that Huffman has the depth of thought necessary to evaluate the impact of his own actions.

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[–] MjolnirThyme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago

I'm going Hanlon's Razor on the motive with everyone else here but the fact these platforms were so important to the last election and a failure to capture that influence is the reason they are sinking now. Anyone with a plan is definitely not succeeding and I'm not buying that any of this is 4D chess.

[–] ReadingCat@programming.dev 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Am I the only one who is frustrated about the text placement over the colors?

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think they wanted to avoid "Reddit Twitter becoming becoming worse worse"

[–] laughingsquirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago

For me, it's not the text placement itself but the mapping of color and text. Reddit should be red, Twitter should be blue 🧐

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago
[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm colorblind so I could be way off... But it looks like the red one is Twitter and the blue one is Reddit which just seems ironic lol

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

i will pray for your sensor array comrade

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[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

You're 100% correct

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Fuck spez and elmo.

[–] casmael@startrek.website 8 points 11 months ago
[–] jvrava9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

The enshitification continues

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

I think rich people are working really hard to try and get the republicans in power next election, that should probably tell you all you need to know about how to vote

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

And here comes Discord with steel chair!

[–] greenhorn@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

I more likes on my tweets than ever since Elon took over! ...And the increase is all bots.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In 2023... Why would you use either?

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago (4 children)

to be where the people are?

I love the idea of our little corner of the Internet, but it doesn't have the content or the users of the incumbents.

[–] caveman8000@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Conceptually I get what you're saying, but I've never used Twitter and I dropped Reddit in July cold turkey.

I have had no issues being where the people are just sticking to the Fediverse.

I don't feel like I've missed anything. I did pick up Mastodon, but that's just lurking. I picked up a few news apps to fill in a blank or two, but those usually end up on Lemmy anyway.

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