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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago

Someone remind the Taliban can't possibly beat America with their junk weaponry and should retroactively surrender

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago

Ah yeah, they won because of superior firepower and not extremely defensible, mountainous terrain, and knowledge of local complex cave systems.

[-] gosling@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago

That's a lot of words to admit "superior" guns don't make you superior

[-] nuke@yah.lol 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Motherfucker this is NCD. Of course superior guns make you superior. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Yeah we just knew we couldn't level the mountains without coming off as the warmongering aggressors we are.

If we let go of all rules for war we would have just carpet bombed the entire place until everyone was dead.

But because civilians are a thing we (generally I'm not saying America is a good example of not committing war crimes) don't do things like that.

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

It doesnt help that even carpet bombing the mountains would be extremely ineffective. Those tunnels run deep man, deeper than anyone thinks. Now we’re wasting a lot more on bombs only to have them escape anyways.

[-] Nyoka@lemm.ee 40 points 10 months ago

Dragunov: disrespected. PKM: also disrespected. Skorpion: most disrespected on this unhappy day.

For real, infantry training is way more valuable than any particular weapon gimmick as long as it is "good enough". The Soviets figured out qd optics crazy early, but it's not like every grunt was issued an AKMN and taught to use a magnified optic.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Even more valuable than infantry training is having a functional supply line. Logistics wins wars.

[-] Nyoka@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

If we're going to be really credible:

  1. Have the biggest economy, or
  2. Be allies with the biggest economies
[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

western firearms: "NO FEAR!"

mud: "xin chào"

western firearms: "One fear."

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago

A lone puff of sandy dust enters the mechanism...

[-] ooterness@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

NOOOO! My only weakness!

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

That's what you get for bringing the gun into an environment.

[-] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nato has moved away from those iconic rifles and is going AR everything. Same with uniforms all becoming OCP/Multicam. It's probably for the best but I'll miss the uniqueness of the different systems, patterns etc

M16: Big, long boomer certified AR

M4: Optic and broomstick dong AR

Mk18,GAU5A etc: Smol AR

M27,M110 etc: AR with bipod

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

From a military logistics and training standpoint, one weapon platform with mission specific adaptations is far, far, FAR cheaper and efficient than specialized platforms with standardized accessories and ammo.

That's what the AK accomplished, (pulling this part out of my ass:) while not having the modern development that AR has provided.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 10 months ago

The Kalashnikov was really good and has totally proven itself as the people's battle weapon.

The story of the rise of the Armalite as a reponse is a weird story, but as I've researched it (opinions often differ) it wasn't the AK that killed the M14, but the notion of squeezing three fire teams for M2 machine gun emplacements into a squad, rather than one.

The M14s were lost to M16s as their weight got displaced, but according to the Marines I talked to, they favored the M14 over the M16, and liked the hole they could punch through the enemy (and anything behind them for miles).

That said, later iterations of the Armalite got better.

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

It really did not help that the original M16s were terrible, plus cleaning kits were sparcely handed out with the myth that the rifle was self cleaning, AND they changed the ammo the gun was originally tested on to a cartridge that had worse performance.

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

M60 far inferior to FN MAG AK trounced M14s when they were both adopted around the same time No mention of PK or SVD

Also an OG M16A1/A2 is not modular until you throw the SOPMOD blocs or A3/A4 revision upgrades - a better like comparison would be AK12 or a tricked out 100 series. Just dumb luck that AR could ditch the plastic handuards and front cap to use the barrel nut for ff rails, Stoner/Sullivan weren’t wizzards

[-] crypticthree@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I'm guessing you don't speak Czech

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

AK, dragged through the mud, ran over by a truck, kicked around in a trench, nearly exploded by grenades: Still fires.

M16, looked at funny: Jams.

Meme: haha look at me this is dumb lol

Virgin GeNyUsEs of NCD: ummmmm ackshyully that meme is incorrect and here's the reasons why

Chad enjoyers of dumb memes: haha look at this meme it's so dumb

this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2023
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