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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If we’re out in the solar system, we can have a trillion humans in the solar system, which means we would have 1,000 Mozarts and 1,000 Einsteins.

The world population now is ten times what it was in Mozart’s day. The reason we don’t have ten Mozarts now isn’t because of a population shortage, it’s because too many of those people are living in inescapable poverty so Bezos can indulge his fantasies.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Also, all of those Mozarts put their early work up on YouTube and then got chased off by a bunch of trolls, so their genius will never be appreciated.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yet another example of the obscenely wealthy being regarded as experts on everything.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Oh look... the billionaire parasites are pretending their fevered fantasies should matter to the rest of us again.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Jeff Bezos could put a 12ga to his temple and pull the trigger and do more to advance space travel than he's currently doing.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, you see, they're completely free people except for the part where we control their employment and if they can't pay their bills we cut off their air.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Yep, I think everyone has it wrong, they're not trying to get to space. They're trying to put everyone else in space while they keep the earth.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Bezos already has those. Maybe he can gamify some of those Amazon warehouse workers into a rocket.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We've got a lot of problems with space before we can ever put a trillion people in space. Between the vacuum and radiation of space and the fact that our bodies don't function well in extended zero-G, just keeping a few people alive up there is a monumental task. Then you have the potential for industrial accidents to poison the entire ecosystem and micrometeorite impacts trying to ventilate the structure - a structure that is being weakened by constant exposure to cosmic radiation.

I mean eventually we have to go to space or die and I prefer the former but we are very, very far away from that. To the point where the suggestion is science fiction, not being a visionary pioneer.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

We don't even know if it is possible to successfully give birth to a healthy baby in space. Even if we got one of these colonies up and running, it may only last a generation if the population can't be self-sustaining.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

We dont know how to recycle or dispose of garbage for fuck sakes and y'all want us to live in fucking space?

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

We can't even take care of this planet. Space colonies are out until we can.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I cant even with space obsessed folks. Like if we truly can't even get it right here, its over anyway

The $elfi$hne$$ of billionaire$ must be ¢ontained

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Space is the eventuality of mankind. We can't neglect it. But it is right that we can't just discard planet earth and expect we will fare any better up there where materials are scarce and every law of nature is trying to kill you.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Its a fantasy the rich use to distract from improving conditions and humanity's behavior (particularly their own) here geographically + economically and now temporally.

The cake is a lie

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I can't even imagine what kind of dirty shithole a space colony would be.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

Earth has self regulation without humans. Space colonies need that before its viable.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

The ISS is supposed to stink if that's any indication.

[–] Mirrorgiraffe@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

If we can find the money and political will to terraform something like Mars, we should probably take .01% of that budget and turn the earth into paradise first.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

as has every science fiction writer since asimov

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

and before, really. At least, after ww2, scifi was all about space ships and colonies on the moon (and venus. Until they realized how... extremely inhospitable Venus is.)

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

I was thinking about that as I wrote it but wanted a famous name that everyone would recognize who also wrote pretty long ago.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just need 2k years of terraforming. Not long at all.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Lol. Yeah. No worries.

Actually- and this applies to Asimov too- it’s amazing where people thought we’d be by now.

Or like, things that changed with the times- Asimov liked to talk about how awesome and good nuclear radiation was. (“Bathed in the warm glow of radiation….”)

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Here’s what he’s doing: not launching a damn thing. Maybe he should be focused on getting BE-4 production into the double digits in engines made and certified for flight before we worry about the millions of space colonies.

[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

gundam intensifies

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Praise for a super-villain.

[–] Shalakushka@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

A bunch of earthnoids in this thread have souls weighed down by gravity.

[–] kpw@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

How does this qualify as news?