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[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I can't wait for xmas to be over. The commercialism sickens me. I try to put a face on but it's so soul destroying. I guess if you have kids you have a different perspective of it but as a normal adult it's just so terribly stupid. I must be a "grinch".

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

It's already half of December and Christmas music is already blasting non-stop, send help, I want to go back to October😭

[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Working retail at this time of year is hilarious. Thanksgiving and the 4th of July were panic-inducing enough. Inching closer to Christmas... can't wait for all those last-minute shoppers.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I worked in a retail a lot in my younger years. Through christmases too. The piped xmas music was actual mental torture.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All I want for Christmas is you

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 11 months ago

Aaaghh! Stop it!

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So I was re-reading the German Ideology by Marx recently and I found his bit about 'Mental Production' really relevant in regards to Drill music in the UK.

So if you take what Marx is saying, that the mental production (art) of a society is controlled by the upper class, and those who lack the means to engage in mental production will be dominated by it. He gives the example that you just need to read history to realize this is true, as the only art that gets filtered through history and that gets to survive and be representative is what the upper class allowed to be uncensored, and what the upper class deemed valuable enough to fund with money both in purchasing, artists expenses and education.

In a modern context in the UK over 900 drill artists have been entirely banned from making music; 80% of them where never implicated in any crime what so ever, and 92% are black; the idea that drill music is an inherently violent genre of music that increases crime is a moral panic. Think about mods vs rockers, or satanic panic with metal etc; the only new element to the moral panic around drill is that it is now also racialized; it represents a sub-culture of defiance and is a truely bottom up from the underclass genre of music and as such it needs to be comidified, neuterued and the real pioneers of the genre stopped from making music so that the representation of what 'drill' even is can be whitewashed in history by the mainstream.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I didn't know about this. Looking into it, turns out police literally cited music videos as the cause behind violent attacks, a theory that was unsurprisingly supported by an ultra conservative think tank. London having a normal one. Do you have a link to any such music?

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

So my main source on this was this book I read recently;

They talk about the origin of drill music in the UK as being linked to these tracks, so here you go;

https://youtu.be/f10yTpZzuv4

https://youtu.be/tMkK4JR-pho

They mention that think tank in the book, they also talk about how this attempt to associate black music with violent stereotypes is hardly anything new, its been going on to grime artists prior to this, I suppose the new thing about it is that drill artist get banned from even entering certain postcodes and given 4-5 year prison sentances for not comitting a crime, but refrencing a already convicted murder they where just aware of as it had been publicized in the news. Its clearly not about just censoring supposed violent music but about removing voices from the victims of austeirty.

[–] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

the only art that gets filtered through history and that gets to survive and be representative is what the upper class allowed to be uncensored,

This is why I love the preserved graffiti in the ruins of Pompeii. They share a relatability with cave paintings that other historical art lacks.

[–] Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

That and Herculaneum, one of the best places to learn about the proletarian population of the ancient Rome empire

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[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

merry week to Oppo ~and\ everyone\ else~

[–] Oppo@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

I hope you all have a nice week :D

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