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[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 160 points 10 months ago

Employers controlling their workers “time off” is old fashioned dystopia.

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[-] nakal@kbin.social 104 points 10 months ago

If it's on company time, it's fine.

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

Jeff Bezos: It's inside the Amazon warehouse, while working.

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[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago

My health is nearly none of my employer's business. I will not be telling them when or how I exercise.

This is a gross invasion of privacy.

There isn't much difference between a "bonus" and a penalty, given enough notice.

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

I kind of like the Japanese culture of the workplace being in charge of the health of their workers. This is why they all exercise for the first 30 min of their shift. If they are overweight, they find a solution.

Is it invasive? Kind of, yeah. Pretty much. Idk. Maybe the bonus shouldn't ride on the fitness, but I think the workplaces should be more involved in the health of their employees.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Unless the company is going to allow me to run in company time or pay me my base pay plus overtime on top of the bonus that's a hard fuck no from me.

Company wants my time, they better damn well pay for it.

ETA. Thinking about it more, nah this whole running for your bonus is bullshit and I wouldn't do it even if they paid me overtime since running/exercising unless your job is directly related to it, running has nothing to do with work performance which the bonus is based on.

[-] xarexyouxmadx@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

But they are paying you for it. Not for your time specifically but for your distance. Idk if you read the article but highest tier is 130% of your base salary.

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[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 52 points 10 months ago

Other than the disability, privacy and disability concerns already raised- Running is SO boring. What if you prefer other cardio activity or a mix of strength training and cardio? Why does it have to be running?

[-] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

I also can’t see how this doesn’t open them up to lawsuits for any injuries incurred from a sprained ankle to a blown out knee or a heart attack. I’m a manager in a large company, and I got a bit nervous at some of the offsite activities, and those were mild things like dunk tanks. Plus I bet the entertainment company or venue carries that insurance. This is literally making the run part of the job, and it’s a relatively dangerous activity.

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[-] Aggy@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago

The article says climbing and walking are both accepted.

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[-] thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz 37 points 10 months ago

The amount of bonus a worker gets is based on the number of miles they complete each month.

I understand what they're trying to do, but this is just not equitable. You'd have to figure out how to handle this for people who cannot run (such as wheelchair users). This greatly favours those with more free time and less obligations (such as people with no kids). It favours those already in shape and those who have fewer health issues.

This will favour those who already have it better off, which is the opposite of equity.

Good idea in theory, but I don't like the model where it's applied based on output.

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[-] Squeak@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

Run 2 miles/day to receive a bonus of 130% my salary? That seems insanely good value and this is coming from someone who has run about a total of 2 miles since I left school.

Get the train to work and park just over a mile away, run to catch the train and go to work. After work run back to your car. Instant 130% salary increase

[-] kttnpunk@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago

Unless you're disabled, elderly or otherwise unable to do this... Not to mention how is this tracked? I don't want MY employer knowing what I do or where I go in my free time.

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[-] USAONE@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

So disabled employees get no bonuses?

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[-] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 10 months ago

chairman of a company that makes paper

Michael Scott energy

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Michael Scott's Dunder Mifflin Scranton Meredith Palmer Memorial Celebrity Rabies Awareness Pro-Am Fun Run Race For the Cure.

That episode even had Kevin insisting he doesn't want to run and Michael threatening to fire him.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 23 points 10 months ago

You don't even need to be disabled to be unable to run or do heavy exercises. There are several conditions that can make running painful or impossible, like arthritis, athrosis, hernias, respiratory problems, etc.

Tying the bonuses to how fit you are is straight up evil. I highly doubt the boss will pay for medical expenses of people that push themselves too far to get the most money, who, ironically, might effectively end up losing that extra money.

Workers record their exercises and distances using fitness apps.

Clearly nobody will find a way to cheat that, no siree!

[-] Maslo@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

This area has been pretty well explored by Pokemon Go players already. On Android there's an app called defit that has multiple options for adding fake exercise data to your Google fit account which is where Pokemon Go, and typically these insurance apps, pull their info from.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

100km/mo = 3.33km/day or A little over 2 miles a day.

Which sounds do-able if you're fit and healthy. But what if you're disabled or partially disabled?

[-] el_bhm@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

Reality is you dont want to run every day. You can. But you should not for the sake of your joints.

Realistically this should be 6-8kms, 3-4 times a week.

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Some guy pushes himself too much, dies from a heart attack and they cancel the initiative

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago

At one previous company where I worked I started a karate dojo, and I gave voluntarily classes. About 40% of the company regularly trained with me and we all got ripped, it was awesome

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[-] SharkyPants@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

One of my previous jobs did something similar to this only without reward and public shaming as the punishment. We were all cube workers forced to do army standard tests and training after work.

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