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Over 50 per cent of users may shun social media by 2025 as misinformation, toxicity grow::A Gartner survey found that 53 per cent of consumers believe the current state of social media has decayed compared to either the prior year or five years ago.

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[–] DigitalFrank@lemmy.world 163 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is as close as I get to social media.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck I literally thought that comment word for word before I loaded the comments for this post.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 32 points 10 months ago

We are all DigitalFrank on this blessed day.

This reminds me of an interesting dynamic I've witness this holiday season.

Now, to set the stage, most of my extended family and friends know well that I don't do social media. I left Twitter way back when it was just becoming necessary to grapple with the idea of the blue check, and Trump was still just some reality TV guy with cartoon hair the last time I made a Facebook post. I never got Instagram, TikTok, or any of those 2nd run of social media apps.

Everyone who knows me knows this about me. But this year when I talk about actually deleting my Facebook, people are aghast. No one is bothered that I haven't posted there in a decade, but me actually deleting my account is something more akin to actual death to a lot of these people. I don't get it.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Forums are definitely social media, but I like to think of them as the less shitty kind.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

True, whenever I see "social media" brought up though I'm always picturing Facebook, Twitter, Myspace. This and reddit and forums definitely are a form of though. Even bbs back in the day.

I tend to divide them based on how much they want to manipulate and sell me shit. Also how much of my personal info they require.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

IRC was my social media back in the day lol

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[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (13 children)

I think that number will grow as Twitter continues to decay. People clinging to the dead corpse is pretty cringe when it comes to Twitter.

Facebook is dead already I feel and most people I know using it are only in there for old people who can’t use anything else or for the marketplace. Under the same umbrella, instagram is dead unless you’re selling something.

Forums like Reddit and lemmy I think will last the longest, but even then when the toxicity grows and transfers over from Reddit to here I probably will stop using it as much

Also I say dead as in what it originally was has been lost in the wake of “influencers” and companies

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 27 points 10 months ago (6 children)

It's a shame, facebook used to be great for local stuff, but the algorithm seems to have killed that.

Tried nextdoor but it's mostly Karens.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I got next door, but only care about it as far as looking out for potential missing pets. I live in a fairly red area, and everyone is middle-aged on there, and everything I saw was super conservative people, and some hate for anything mentioning the possibility of non straight people.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Even in my very very blue area nextdoor is almost entirely crime posting and people posting doorbell cams of brown people on the sidewalk. It's a complete wasteland.

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[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Fortunately it requires effort to come in here with is a barrier for the casual trolls.

[–] MountainGoat@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Facebook, for me and the people I know, has become a message board where I know all the players. I don't friend people from school or work, but instead people from conventions and hobbies, of which Facebook groups I also belong to and interact.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 60 points 10 months ago (4 children)

By 2025 it will all be chatbots posting disinformation for the enjoyment of other bots, while advertising bots pay for it.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So one AI is hitting on another AI? This is art. I will watch that YouTube channel.

[–] shalva97@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Actually there is one directly on Youtube. It's called Murder Drones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mImFz8mkaHo

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[–] Boozilla@discuss.online 11 points 10 months ago

This is dark and funny at the same time. Bots, shouting into the void, in order to separate suckers from their advertising dollars.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago (8 children)

let all social media die in flames.

its nothing but a cancer on society and counts among the worst ills to befall mankind.

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[–] stochasticity@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I don't understand what social media has to offer me anymore.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago

That's probably because you don't have any deplorable personality traits which can only be validated by other assholes on the Internet.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

It's a race for external validation and bragging and painting a false image of your life, and for you to keep in touch with anyone you ever met that you never will keep in touch with. If you take a few steps back you see how truly useless it is, unless, of course, you're meta or Microsoft or whoever is just siphoning all your valuable data and selling you shit that you don't need by manipulating you.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

social media had nothing to offer except attention and undeserved validation.

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[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wish I could retroactively go back and never use Facebook. That site ruined my life for several years

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It debuted when I was living in Japan and when I got back everyone was using it and I had just finished blogging my travels and was like... Nah, doing this for my regular everyday life is way too much to bother with. Facebook continued to became a major thorn in my side for years as every social event under the sun was scheduled through the fucking thing so I missed a bunch of invites because I basically refused to play ball.

It is odd after so long to be the envy of people after a solid decade and a half of being cursed by them for not being on Facebook.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago

To the comments of old people on Facebook - I'm fifty one years old. I deactivated but did not delete my Facebook account five years ago.

This past fall, one of our high school classmates finally succumbed to his addictions. He and I were inseparable back in the day to the extent that if anybody thought of one of us, they automatically thought of the other.

So I felt compelled to say a few words. I reactivated my account, and said my words. I was shocked at the number of replies I got because I couldn't believe that many people were still using the platform. I figured everybody would have left by now.

I left my post up for a week, then deactivated my account again.

Ten years ago, Facebook was a great way to meet women for people in my age group. Unfortunately, when there's a contentious breakup and you've got hundreds of mutual friends, it could and did turn into a social hell scape. That's what got me to leave. I think I got out before the rampant disinformation really got going. For this, I am grateful. (Coda to this topic: Ladies, seriously, what drives you to aggressively slide into my DMs when you see I've recently been through a horrible breakup? Why would you think this is a good time to pursue me? This happened with several people. I did not understand it and found it horribly off-putting.)

Unfortunately, without social media, I've found it difficult to stay in touch with friends who live far away. But that little downside is not enough for me to go back.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

Wrong 50%, unfortunately.

That really doesn’t come out right, does it?

Just the people with some level of critical thinking will leave, the ones festering in fringe and conspiracy thought patterns will remain, and likely pull more in like them.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

I'm somewhat surprised to hear it'd be as high as 50%. Pleased, but surprised.

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

When it changed from "Social Media" to "Social Media" it really went to shit. That and when Google's new board decided "don't be evil" was no longer compatible with their goals. Yeah, the internet used to be great...

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I feel it has already happened.. people check social media, but I hardly see any created content anymore (status updates etc).. just reposted stuff from gullible people that they thought was magic but was just AI created rubbish.

The only thing I use social media for is purchasing items from hobby groups and I can’t see that being replicated anywhere anytime soon as eBay is full of fake rubbish

[–] triclops6@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fountain pen user here, and same, I'm in, I browse, I'm out.

Dodging aunt Mabel's anti vax bullshit like the matrix

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[–] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm probably leaving for the fact it's just ads.

Actual paid for ads, sponsorship ads, giveaway ads to grow, influencer ads, comment ads to grow their reach.

It's just one big advertisement.

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[–] mob@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I find myself wanting to kill time by using my phone and scrolling, even Lemmy, and realizing it's not doing anything for me. Just a comfort scroll. I think I'll probably kick the social media/scrolling habit completely within the next year.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Someone once said that social media is like reading the worst book in the world which is also endless, that you can't stop reading. I think that's apt.

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[–] JustinAngel@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

"Over 50 per cent of heroin addicts will stop using by 2025 as negative, obvious consequences grow"

[–] bh11235@infosec.pub 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The prime problem is that every social space eventually becomes a circlejerk. Bots and astroturfing exacerbate the problem but it exists perfectly fine on its own -- in the early 2000s I had the misfortune of running across plenty of gigantic, years-long circlejerks where definitely no bots or nefarious foreign manipulators were involved (I'm talking console wars, Harry Potter ship wars, stupid shit like that). People form circle jerks in the same way that salts form crystals. It's just in their nature.

The thing with circlejerks isn't that there's overwhelming agreement on some subject. You'll get dunked on in most any social media space for claiming that the Earth is flat or that Putin is a swell guy, that in itself is obviously not a problem. What makes a circlejerk is that takes get cheered for and upvoted not in proportion to how much they are anchored in reality, but in proportion to how useful they are in galvanizing allies and disrupting enemies. Whoever shouts "glory to the cause" in the most compelling way gets all the oxygen. At that point the amount of brain rot is only going to increase. No matter how righteous the cause, inevitably there comes the point where you can go on the Righteous Cause Forum and post "2+2=5, therefore all glory to the cause" and get 400 upvotes.

Everyone talks a big game about how much they like truth, reason and moral consistency, but in the end when it's just them and the upvote button and "do I stop and honestly examine this argument that gives me warm fuzzy feelings", "is it really fair to dunk on Hated Group X by applying a standard I would never apply to anyone else" -- the true colors show. It's depressing and it makes most of social media into information silos where totalizing ideologies go to get validated, and if you feel alienated by this then clearly that space isn't for you.

[–] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yep. This is the primary thing preventing me from contributing to, and recommending Lemmy. People confidently posting and upvoting harmful misinformation, and toxic/unintelligent people. I've already left Reddit and Facebook (a long time ago) for similar reasons.

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 9 points 10 months ago

Don't let others know of your hiding spot.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

everyone in southeast asia gets their news from fake secondhand captioned screenshots on facebook

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What’s up with that graphic showing google+? What is this, 2019?

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Probably just a reused template image they keep in reserve.

One day it'll have Mastodon and Lemmy and such. Maybe by 2030.

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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is an Indian news outlet but I hope it includes the whole world. I have certainly logged off of all social media -besides Lemmy.

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[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I did it 3 years ago and have not looked back! I do miss keeping up with some friends and Facebook events are nice but the toxicity just got to be to much

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[–] jaschen@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I already shunned it. For about 4 years now. I don't feel like I'm missing anything.

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