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Hong Kong is building public housing on a golf course in a snub to the old elite (www.straitstimes.com)

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[–] WeeSheep@lemmy.world 77 points 10 months ago

That is a much better use of land!

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca 63 points 10 months ago (1 children)

lmfao good

fuck golf

[–] passntrash@midwest.social 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

While I loathe golf courses and am always happy to take the piss out of the "elites", this feels like something more.

This might just be the CCP flexing political power over Hong Kong in general, but I'd be curious to see what the primary motivation behind this decision was. Obviously it wasn't building public housing, that's just a good cover story with a positive side effect.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s exactly what this is, a CCP flex, and it’s quite sad (though not at all unexpected) to see half the people in this thread applauding it.

[–] GenEcon@lemm.ee -2 points 10 months ago

Half of lemmy is pro-Chinese chills.

[+] Not_mikey@lemmy.world -9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

the CCP can't possibly do something in the interests of the people, their must be something dastardly behind this.

Your just as bad as the tankies who think u.s. aid is just a CIA front, or the Republicans who think welfare is just Democrats keeping black people poor and dependent.

The u.s government and CCP aren't just full of villains trying to oppress people, both have the capacity for empathy and compassion and do exercise it often.

[–] passntrash@midwest.social 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That's not what I said, but I love how you misquoted me in the framework of your own personal warped version of reality.

Read the subtext of the article. This location was obviously selected for a politically motivated reason, and I'd be interested to know what that was i.e. was it a general show of power (boring), or was it some hyper specific personal conflict with a prominent member of the club and a CCP party member (interesting).

That doesn't mean the intent behind the CCP policy isn't good, well intentioned, or positive. But that's not surprising to me, so it's not very interesting. What drove the politics behind the decision to raze a Golf Course to spite HK elite, is very interesting, at least to me.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

the primary motivation behind this decision was. Obviously it wasn’t building public housing

That doesn’t mean the intent behind the CCP policy isn’t good, well intentioned, or positive

Can you see how I'm confused, do you think the primary intent is for public housing, or for some political drama?

It could be some political drama, we'll never know what goes on in the HK city council, but if you read the article you'll see this site wasn't selected so much as it's lease was up and the city would be taking back control of it and they needed to do something with it. Yeah some high official could've been waiting for the course to come back into city hands so they could build public housing over it and snub a rival, but I think it's far more likely that the property fell into the cities hands and they decided to turn it into affordable housing because that's what the city needs, no sinister or alterior motive is needed.

[–] Winter8593@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just drove past a golf course yesterday and thought we should do this!

[–] Shaggy1050@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

May I ask why? My old town had about a dozen golf courses when I was growing up. Now when I drive by it's all housing developments other than the few that remain. It used to be a more rural area.

I'd much rather see green space and golf courses than housing developments. While I completely agree that there is a housing shortage, it appears that root issue isn't solved by more housing developments on golf courses. Instead, why not convert existing buildings (such as unused office spaces) into public housing. Or, prevent corporations or investment firms from buying up real estate/housing to turnaround and jack up costs.

I may be biased but I've had these views before picking up golf. I mainly use golf as a way to stay active as I'm getting older and get outside in the fresh air.

[–] cazsiel@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A local municipality did the same thing but instead of building housing that the public can afford these houses are going for 400k bare bones. They effectively snubbed both the rich and the poor, and mostly just teh poor. In fact it's a really nice part of town to live so just the poor nevermind.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

I live in the outskirts of NYC and have to remind myself $400k isn't budget housing. Every now and then I'll look up regular size apartments in the area and they're usually $1-2 million

[–] Crow@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I wish golf wasn’t a sport of the elite. It’s such a fun. Whacking a ball as far as you can is so satisfying and then combo that with an all day walk through a garden. We must revive golf as the every man’s sport!

[–] Cl1nk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Never thought about golf like this, it always seems so boring and pretentious, hitting a little ball seems so technical

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Watch less pro golf. All the old farts out there suck ass and are largely just taking the chance to be out drinking with friends. Don't need to be sober to drive a golf cart, at least here.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I often see golf clubs at thrift stores and affordable courses do exist at least where I live. Maybe it's just just perception thing!

But yeah fuck golf courses regardless. There's also indoor golf which isn't a drain on the environment and taking up useless land and actually can be fun experience for anyone cuz it can be an inclusive experience for any skill or economic class, like bowling.

[–] Changer098@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's a somewhat rinky-dink course in my hometown that's pretty cheap but still nice. It was pretty fun to go in the evening and walk nine holes where you get a good but easy exercise with some nature to it.

Trying to find that same experience away from my hometown has been a challenge. The sport is too damn expensive!

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I've got several municipal courses around where the green fee is $35, and a cart rental is $10. I got a random set of clubs from a buddy for $50, and you can get a decent box of balls from Costco for about $25. I think it's definitely about where you're at, but I enjoy spending an afternoon with buddies playing whackfuck (I'm absolutely terrible).

[–] Cuttlefish1111@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When they confiscate everything from Trump I hope they turn the golf courses into public housing

[–] cazsiel@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it will just go to the next rich a-hole who has the money to pay for it. We don't get happy endings in america.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Happy endings cost extra.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hell yeah. Having a humongous area of grass that needs to be moved and watered reserved for a boring sport when there are tons of people paying ridiculously high rent to be able to cram themselves into some tiny closet. Fuck the CCP tho.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Rare China W. We better get our politicians to take notes of this one.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A more telling sign would be if they did it on the mainland. They're always happy to go against HK because they're more likely to rebel and demand their rights back.

Still broken clocks and all so good on them for this I guess.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's surreal that there even was a golf course on that tiny island.

[–] burningmatches@feddit.uk 2 points 10 months ago

The golf course isn’t on an island.