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Far-right extremists stage rural land grab across Germany (www.theguardian.com)

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Reichsbürger movement aims to establish parallel societies by infiltrating schools, clubs and public offices

A strategic rural land grab by rightwing extremists is taking place across Germany with the concerted aim of creating communities independent of the state, according to the domestic intelligence agency and government ministries.

Authorities and NGOs monitoring far-right groups say the members of the Reichsbürger movement who reject the post-1945 German state are making a targeted effort to establish parallel societies and infiltrate existing structures including schools, clubs and public offices.

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[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 64 points 9 months ago

Reads more like a delusional cult and painful nuisance rather than a serious threat to democracy. The guy thinks he's an incarnation of an archangel.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 63 points 9 months ago

I think that's the way these always look before they succeed. Vigilance is important, though paranoia is harmful.

[-] HollandJim@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

Agreed. We paid no attention to Trump and he’s spearheading these groups. You need to be vigilant from the start or else they’ll continue thinking you’re weak. Any corrective actions later seem like overreach and then they only gain MORE ground.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The techniques they're using are real. Building parallel power structures is the way to usurp current power structures or build orginazational power. People on the revolutionary left know this too, but we tend to engage thay way through mutual aid over land grabs.

They seem to be focused on a parallel society because they're fighting a culture war. My vision of parallel power structures are ones that meet material needs(think BPP breakfast program), not the want for a society to be more insular.(think Bundy and the rest of the talibanjo farmers)

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 44 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Don’t discount them. The fringe right is, as everywhere else on the world, on the rise here in Germany.

Think qanon levels of delusional, and prone to antidemocratic extremism. The core belief of being a Reichsbürger is that the modern German state is an imperialist construct imposed by the western winners of ww2, and has thus no legitimacy. They consider themselves citizens (Bürger) of the previous german Reich.

Think of the January insurrection attempt in the u.s., those people weren’t taken seriously before either. Until they marched on the government, one of them prominently wearing a self made shaman outfit.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 11 points 9 months ago

They’re basically what we call “sovereign citizens” yeah?

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago

Just looked them up, that sounds about right. Maybe a bit less weird because they just want the government to leave them alone whereas the ours are often more hostile towards it.

[-] 100_percent_a_bot@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

That's pretty spot on, no one takes these guys too seriously here. Also, Germany has a lot more rigid ways of defending its democracy against these kinds of subversions than most other countries, since it caused a lot of ruckus when that happened the last time - not sure if any of you history buffs are aware of an obscure figure called Hitler..

[-] Algaroth@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Ah yes. The big kerfuffle.

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Kerfuffle Part Two: Much Ado.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Wait, are we talking about Moses Mike Johnson?

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 46 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

with the concerted aim of creating communities independent of the state

*grabs popcorn*

If these guys are anything like their US libertarian counterparts, they're in for a beary good time.

Project "reinvent taxes" is always a hoot.

[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

They arent like ours thems is bona fide Nazis

[-] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 9 months ago

Far-right is the biggest treat of our time and no politic cares.

[-] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 9 months ago

the biggest treat

hilarious typo

[-] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 months ago

I guess my autocorrect want to threat me.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Climate apocalypse would like a word

[-] rammer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

As would many other interrelated things.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Polycrisis

[-] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Trick or treat

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

Tick or Threat

[-] hh93@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

They do care but for the wrong reason (because it's costing them votes) - so their solution is copying right-wing positions in an attempt to win back voters when that's only normalizing their viewpoints

[-] Gazumi@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Let's hope that they don't start gaining funding from international sympathizers.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Let’s hope that they don’t start gaining funding from international sympathizers.

Most of Europe's far right is supported by Russia.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

And China

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

According to a recent request for information to the federal interior ministry by Martina Renner of the opposition leftwing Die Linke party, rightwing extremist organisations have bought 40 properties across Germany in the past two years.

German authorities announced that a separate armed rightwing extremist Reichsbürger group headed by the self-appointed Heinrich XIII, Prince Reuss, had planned a putsch, intending to storm the Bundestag, kidnap MPs and topple the state.

Carola Gundlach, the mayor of Rutenberg, did not respond to requests for an interview, but at a meeting between regional and state representatives from the interior and education ministries and the police, she reportedly said she was taking the situation seriously.

Continuing attempts to prosecute him would not dissuade him from fulfilling his vision to “serve God and humanity” and to free Germans from a “postwar minority complex” based on a “massive guilty conscience” relating to the crimes perpetrated by Nazi Germany, he said.

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[-] exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago

"Wir wollen keine Parallelgesellschaft"

[-] unlucky@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

moment, das kommt mir bekannt vor...

[-] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Y'all remember when everyone knew that Nazism and fascism were a bad thing?

'member that?

That was great

[-] rab@lemmy.ca -5 points 9 months ago

Germany is kind of a shithole the last few years so I'm not surprised stuff like this is happening

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