Haley blaming Lincoln for the Civil War should end any debate about her fitness for office. This is pretty close to saying, basically, slavery should be legal.
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Either a) she knows what really happened, but is lying because she considers the bases approval more important than reality or b) she's a fucking moron.
Yeah, I mean blaming Lincoln for the civil war and then claiming to be the party of Lincoln. Seems like that would be a little cognitive dissonance right there wouldn't it?
The base does not care about logical consistency. Indeed, it appears that many of them are altogether unaware of the concept logical consistency, and are entirely uninterested in learning or understanding it.
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She's essentially saying the same "states' rights" bullshit. Which was the right to slavery.
Ugh
The constitution of the Confederacy forbade states from banning slavery. The confederates were fighting against state's rights to abolish slavery.
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Through that same link. Another video played and she said "Of course the civil war was about slavery, we all know it was about slavery... but it was about more than that. It was about the freedoms of EVERY individual."
Well I guess except for the slaves.
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She is white supremacist trash. Props to whoever asked her that question. She isn't bothering to hide it.
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Haley's response:
“I think it always comes down to the role of government and what the rights of the people are,” Haley replied. “And I will always stand by the fact that I think government was intended to secure the rights and freedoms of the people. It was never meant to be all things to all people. Government doesn’t need to tell you how to live your life. They don’t need to tell you what you can and can’t do. They don’t need to be a part of your life. They need to make sure that you have freedom. We need to have capitalism. We need to have economic freedom. We need to make sure that we do all things so that individuals have the liberties so that they can have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to do or be anything they want to be without government getting in the way.”
All Haley had to do was just add in that the Confederacy was about taking away liberties of groups of people and their ability to seek out economic freedom, and that slaves had no freedom of everything.
The bar was on the fucking ground and Haley still failed to meet it.
It's too bad we didn't really crush the Confederates after the war. Meaning, really rub their noses in their loss, but give them a path back to redemption that doesn't involve letting them off easy.
Don't allow them to erect statues for "heritage" and so on. Don't allow them to teach about the "Northern war of aggression" and all that.
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FREEDOM!!!*
*except for what you do in bed or with your uterus, what you may want to read, unfettered access to empirical reality and other things which we’ll maybe let you know about once we figure them out.
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When the questioner said it was “astonishing” to hear her respond “without mentioning the word slavery,” Haley replied: “What do you want me to say about slavery?” She then asked for the next question
I understand that it was a rhetorical question....but it's kind of not. It's pretty clear that her position on slavery is going to be--much like every other opinion--entirely controlled by what her voters want her to say.
Gotta court far right hicks that'll vote for potato brained Trump no matter what anyway. The only thing Haley has going for her is that her failure isnt quite as hard as Desantis.
An entire party of rot brains following Lord rot into hell.
Federal minimum wage are slave wages
Chattal slavery ended but wage slavery and prison slavery is still going strong. Your 401K manager is heavily invested in continuing it too
Remember people, minimum wage=minimum effort. No favors, no "we're family at this company" bullshit. Do the absolute bare minimum and go home, turn off your phone.
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