4 tons is like 1/4 of what an average American produces in a full year, and it happened in 1 hour.
this post was submitted on 31 Dec 2023
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How far does the average American travel in a year and how many people travel to see them?
Idk? Do the math? 1/4 the average Americans yearly carbon emissions, divided by? 1 hour? Thats like 1 American traveling and eating and driving and shopping over a whole years worth of time in 4 hours...
Not saying I agree with the person you're responding to, but I think you're misinterpreting their point. They're not trying to do a comparison between yearly emissions of T Swift and the average American, but attempting to demonstrate that there may be justifications for the amount of emissions.
Their comment seems to be suggesting that with the extreme demand to see this artist, her job requires she travel much farther than the average American. You could put some of the blame on her directly, but equally, we can factor in how many people are contributing to the extreme demand to see her. If you were in her shoes, could you resist the desire to perform and please your fans (and get paid for doing so).
Again, not trying to support a horse in this race, just to explain the point in more equitable terms.
Exactly my point. It's not just her, it's her and like 5 zillion people who are going to show up to watch.
can't she take the train, and be just 5 hours late instead ? without sacrificing her job of course. but no ..
Sure. Now consider the math of how many people are in the audience of one of her shows. Assume they each drive 50 miles round trip, and add that to her plane trip.
Ok now presume that she's super responsible and doesn't fly, and 1 in 4 people from all the shows she does in a year fly to HER instead for her to have 12 or 24 concerts a year (conservatively).
Comparing her to an average American for travel is pants on head stupid.
Assuming this was between gigs - blame the fans
It’s not like she could safely fly publicly in a post John Lennon world, and when your job requires you to constantly fly around the world i’d imagine that you get pretty used to it. Maybe once SAF becomes more widely produced and available you could complane if she has the doesn’t use it dispite having the money, but I don’t see many practical alternatives for someone who constantly has to travel on tight deadlines for work and is at high risk of getting shot by some nut.
I also don’t think it’s a coincidence that her jet use became a major talking point right after she started pushing statisiticly left leaning young people to get out and vote for collective action. She’s a hypocrite becuse she flys for work so don’t feel bad about staying home and helping the Republicans win more of the legislature so they can keep squashing any hope of any new climate laws.
Similarly there is an active campaign based on the idea both parties are just as bad and it’s all gerrymandered to hell so no point in going out to vote or trying to pass bipartisan anti-gerrymandering ballot initiatives like the kind that have knocked several purple states into new more inline with thier populations.
If your a unpopular minority party which hasn’t won the presidency by popular vote since the eighties large voter turnout is terrifying, and the most popular musician in the world campaigning to increase it amount her young fans twice so.
Sure also rents it out so that it isn’t just sitting.
Could be anyone
No, she own two jets (Dassaults). Even when renting, she will be in the first ranks among all jet renters, carbon footprint wise
Oh for sure, I’m not excusing it or trying to defend her, just pointing out what we know and what we don’t.