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[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Care to elaborate why not? Interested in your viewpoint

[–] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

ChatGPT consistently makes up shit. It's difficult to tell when something is made up because it's a language model so it is supposed to sound confident as if it's any person telling a fact that they know.

It knows how to talk like a subject matter expert because that's usually what gets publicized most and thus that's what it's trained on, but it doesn't always know the facts necessary to answer questions. It makes shit up to fill the gap and then presents it intelligently, but it's wrong.

[–] chahk@beehaw.org 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most of the time I use assistant to either perform home automation tasks, or look stuff up online. The first one already works fine, and for the second one I won't trust a glorified autocomplete.

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cause Chatgpt isn't reliable on actual information and i don't want to have any "assistant" at all.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 1 points 10 months ago

Fair enough!

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Collects your data, profiles you based on your typing style, what you type etc.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Regular assistants, websites, stores etc all do this exact same thing already for what it’s worth.

People do too!

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

people/regular aassistants don't sell my data to do highest bidder

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

By regular assistant I meant google, Samsung, etc not like a person.

People just give it away for free to each other.

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

you intentionally refuse to understand what I am saying, yes I don't use google, samsung or any other assistants either. People talking about me is not a problem corporations and governments spying on me is.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 0 points 10 months ago

I’m sorry excuse me? I’m not intentionally doing anything. Maybe instead of attributing malice, you might opt for ignorance next time. I can only understand what I understand and you can only communicate as effectively as you can. There’s plenty of room for leeway and benefit of doubt here, unless you’d like another hive mind Reddit clone.

Realigning with the conversation, I can understand not wanting powerful parties knowing all about you. They’re much more severe (generally) than people can be. But for some, people can be just as damaging if they have it out for you for whatever reason (gender, sexual orientation, race, success, pissed them off and they’re psychotic, etc)

My outlook on privacy isn’t to obscure or hide information but to inflate it with noise instead. Finding a back alley doorway to a building is much easier than finding the right hotel room in a complex of hotels.

Obviously not everyone subscribes to this tactic but I wanted to share my outlook as well. I was just sharing what I know and have with you. Wasn’t meant to be a heated debate.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Man this type of shit is why I'm getting rid of google Assistant and going to a FOSS home assistant setup. I don't want chat gpt. I want to add things to my calendar, my shopping list, turn off lights and open/close blinds. I want to mute speakers at a certain time with a routine that isn't broken every five minutes. I want timers that work reliably. I want to be able to make an announcement when Amazon is at the door. Why are they making this so difficult?

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are there any HA smart speakers ?

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

A couple dev boxes:

Nothing commercial available is very good, but hopefully that will change soon.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Must be difficult because thus far no one has been able to do any of those things with any degree of reliability.

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Details!

How do you disable assistant and what do you use instead. How good is it? Does it work on pixels?

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/0b789715-c7c7-425c-bb2d-c51d14c26de0.png

Yes, this works on Pixels. Home Assistant is a mature open source home automation platform.

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That is literally an option you can select...

which, I did

[–] wazzupdog@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago

How can it replace Google assistant if there is no Google assistant on my phone. (I removed it)

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

I'll be able to. But I most certainly won't do it. No thanks.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I just want to be able to consistently make searches using what's on my phone screen. Is that too much to ask? The screen search button disappears every other month and I'm sick of it. I don't invoke the Assistant for any other reason.

Update: it's back again after another month long hiatus! Who knows when it'll be taken from me next!

[–] TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page 4 points 10 months ago

Digital assistants are good for timers, turning on smart lights, and sometimes playing music. None of those things require a large language model to spit random text back at me.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Can't see it being that useful if it remains restricted to info 2+ years old.

You wouldn't be able to ask it the weather or anything of the sort.