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[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It's been an unsupportable business model from the beginning. Other than android, everything Google makes is easily replaceable by some other product. They don't have a monopoly like any of their competition that will easily sustain them. I honestly don't believe the majority of Google Engineers actually do anything innovative anymore as most of those people left the company when their pet projects were shut down in the first round of cost cutting measures (around the time Google became Alphabet).

[–] lud@lemm.ee 42 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They pretty much have a monopoly with YouTube.

[–] pixelscript@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Supposedly a deeply unprofitable one. Which is a huge chunk of why no real competition has surfaced.

It's one thing to set up a proverbial store with prices so low you choke out the competition. It's another thing to essentially pay your customers to come in, either by literally paying them or by providing a service that they pay below actual cost for.

[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago

Supposedly a deeply unprofitable one.

That's probably why it's getting enshittified so quickly.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] lud@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that one is replaceable if people want too.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Everything is replaceable if people want to. The problem is the inertia it takes to substitute it

[–] lud@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

YouTube is really hard to replace without the money of a multi billion company.

Video is hard and attracting creators is even harder.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So is a good search engine. As much as I love DuckDuckGo and daily drive it the results are much worse than google’s

[–] lud@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, you can switch to a different search engine right now and the results will be perfectly fine. I use DDG exclusively.

What video platform can you switch to that has even remotely close to the amount of content as YouTube? (Pornhub doesn't count)

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Twitch, but that comes with its own problems.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

It's also different as there only a few privileged channels get to keep their content forever. A lot of channels can only keep it for 2 weeks or 2 months based on their status, and a lot of creators upload their content to youtube to keep it for longer

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The only benefit I get from google over ecosia or duckduckgo is I can't call a company or view their menu immediately from the search page after looking them up.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don’t leave in an English speaking country and sometimes the results are not ideal tbh

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully the alternatives catch on to that and improve outside of the English speaking world. Using Brave has been a dream for me, the results are almost always better than Google.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

i personally refrain from brave, because A, those whole crypto shennenigans and what not and second, the browser is chromium based and i use firefox and i haven't bothered to put brave search yet

[–] narp@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

Copilot/Bing Search might put a big dent in that in the future. People will just ask an AI instead of "googling".

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Other than android, everything Google makes is easily replaceable by some other product

They built their entire culture on teams building new products. Which means a team would build something cool, get promoted, and leave that project. Who wants to join the maintenance side of things when all the promotions are being handed out to the ones who make new products?

It's a broken system and best of luck Google!

[–] meteorswarm@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

These layoffs didn't happen because Google is out of money. It's insanely profitable.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

They don’t have a monopoly like any of their competition that will easily sustain them.

Erm, you think Bing is a serious competitor? Aside from search (91.54% of the global search market), Google is part of an ads duopoly that is only stalled by walled gardens like Amazon, TikTok, Wal*Mart, and the various entertainment companies. There's also Google Maps, used by 77% of users between 16 and 64, and their biggest non-iOS competitor is Waze, which Google also owns. For email, 75% of the US email market is dominated by Gmail. As for the user-generated media market, YouTube absolutely dominates that. The closest competitor (Twitch, A.K.A. Amazon) is far behind.

As for what Google engineers do, it's mostly not rip-things-up-and-start-over innovation since these are all very mature markets with billions of users. Instead it's small tweaks that generate hundreds of millions in savings or additional revenue.

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Accelerating the enshittification one business quarter at a time. Take a bow Google. Dont be evil lol

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 10 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Google just confirmed to The Verge that it’s eliminated “a few hundred” roles in each of these divisions, meaning Google has confirmed layoffs of around a thousand employees on Wednesday alone, if we use a reasonable definition of “few”.

We asked Google spokesperson Courtenay Mencini to say if this was the complete and total number of job cuts in this round of layoffs, but she stopped replying at that point, only confirming existing layoff reports at 9to5Google and Semafor.

The New York Times reported on the engineering team layoffs too.

When we spoke to Mencini earlier this evening about the Google hardware layoffs, she did not mention the other layoffs — but did write that “a number of our teams made changes to become more efficient and work better” and that “some teams are continuing to make these kinds of organizational changes, which include some role eliminations globally.”

If so, though, it won’t work: The Verge is among the news outlets that takes a hard line against planted information, and we pride ourselves on finding the bigger picture.

Parent firm Alphabet employed 182,381 employees as of September 30th, 2023, so roughly a thousand job cuts would only be around half a percent of the company’s total.


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[–] Jagermo@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

"Same procedure as last year?"

"Same procedure as every year!"